Quote from: SebastianJu on June 25, 2013, 09:55:44 PM

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Look at this info from Bitsyncom/Yifu:

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But i find it funny that the old technique, that is used by Asicminer or Avalon is nearly as good pricewise like the newest asic-tech that comes on the market.

Only some thoughts. Correct me if im wrong.

KNCMiner says: 500 W 175 GH/s that means: 2.86 J/GH
Burnin/Avalon says: 40 W 5.56 GH/s that means: 7.19 J/GH

So on the long term, when difficulty increases and power requirements count, the new techniques should be better.

But nobody knows if KNCMiner meets its power requirements or will ever deliver.
However we are pretty sure that we will get something from Burnin/Avalon in time.

All ASIC developers (AVALON, BFL, KNCMiner) try to sell their products at prices as high as they can.
Much more than the actual costs.

I didnt take the power consumption into account yet because its not a factor yet. But youre right of course. In the long term, when the power cost will mean something, then it will be a factor.

Avalon 2.0?

I guess avalon 2.0 will be similar to the chips from knc, bitfury and bfl. That means it will take time until they are ready. An advantage of them is that the assembly cost will be lower per gh too, a downside might be the higher heat if im not mistaken. But of course one day newer chips has to be used because the power costs are so high that running old asics isnt rewarding anymore. But thats away some time.

Would be a shame to have to use a fan to cool. Could imagine it giving a large price increase for power consumption. Would be allot sweeter to have a chip that is comfortable working at high temperatures period.