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No mansion for me, more like a a hobbit house

but off the grid, hell yeah

You saying that because you don't have enough bitcoins or because you don't want to draw attention to yourself?

By the way, we all gonna be fucked if prices reach $111k, so better have enough coins.

I mean, we gonna be so fucked in the head from RICHes that we gonna have some difficulties figuring out spending, diversification, security.. and some fucking ass new standards that are out of our regular comfort zone... so gotta kind of tentatively start planning, so we not be so shocked...

Have any of you guys actually lived of grid?
It's not as fun as it sounds. When I was a kid we would often spend time in my grandparents summerhouse, with no electricity. You had to get up in the middle of the night to keep the fire going, you had to pump the water by hand, you had to heat the water on the fire, no shower, just a quick hand wash.

They later installed electricity and it was bliss, electric water pump and heating, and all that (but still no shower, they were the old generation who took a bath twice a week or so, the rest was hand wash).

I would love to live of grid, but you simply cant make enough electricity for electric heating, you would have to have a wood burner or oil burner for that. And that's not my cup of tea, except as a backup. Hopefully though, they will soon come up with some kind of high capacity battery that makes wind/solar possible as the only energy source.

Things have changed a lot. Now you can have solar panels efficient and cheap enough to power the whole house. Of course it depends on where you plan to live off the grid... better chose a place with good sun and warm weather so as your electrical needs are not that much and get easily covered (batteries are still somewhat expensive). Water system is also doable provided you have some near source (again, chose the location wisely).

That said... I find the idea of living off-the-grid a king of joke that is only possible because you are somewhat "parasiting" on the technical evolution and infrastructure of "the grid". And it is only a very finite number of people that can do it or otherwise the grid would crumble and we would all be miserable.

OTOH, The idea of just cutting from the electrical grid sounds very appealing to me. Even if living in the middle of a major city. Energy independency is a thing. We are almost to the point where it could be even cheaper than getting it from a third party.

With a proper rain catchment system a single house should be able to support its occupants on 8-10" per year rainfall. 20-25cm. That's not a lot, so I suppose it's rationed, but doable. There aren't very many places that dry anyway, so the point is generally moot. Where I live I think we get that in a day, from time to time Cheesy

All you need is a place you can dig in the dirt, and not be flooded. Don't forget security, view, and weather particular to your location.