Quote from: abudfv2008 on December 10, 2017, 06:13:49 AM

Quote from: bensam1231 on December 10, 2017, 05:03:53 AM

Quote from: wacko on December 10, 2017, 04:59:08 AM

The problem is there's probably 50+% of nvidia users out there that mine in P2 mode and just don't know how to force the miner to P0. So +400 will only be something like "+200 from stock" for a lot of folks.

That's basically a OC. Also not sure why you'd go through the trouble of forcing p0 when you could just OC the memory right out of the gate. Less messing around. Maybe makes your OCD feel better? It doesn't seem to increase voltage to the memory and it doesn't allow you to OC the memory further.

Of cause you don't know. One of the reasons you are doing 2.5$ with 1070 Grin

You are an absolute dumbass. I've known about the p0 state and one of the original people who reported it when mining with 970s. It was either in this thread or Epsylons.

Quote from: wacko on December 10, 2017, 06:15:59 AM

Quote from: bensam1231 on December 10, 2017, 05:58:50 AM

Without a load on the GPU it shouldn't cause a crash. If you're getting crashes from +200 without a load you're already unstable.

I've no idea what exactly happens when that +200 jump occurs, maybe there is some kind of load in that moment. Maybe some calculations are still being done when the miner is closing (if there was no load at that moment, why would it go to p0 after all and not to some low-power mode?). I've had very stable rigs hashing for 24+ hours but crashing when the miner is closed (and then, after forcing cuda apps to run in p0 on those systems, they're stable at those clocks for days/weeks). I've seen quite a few similar reports from other users, afaik it's a relatively common issue.

There isn't. It goes p0 because the load is removed before the clocks go into low power state.

Forgive me, but I'm not going to believe your absolute stability on all your rigs for weeks/months/years, just like adf earning $720 per day mining with a 1070. I have enough rigs to figure out it's not worth the time or the effort of forcing p0, if you're crashing on +200 on exit you're not stable to begin with or you have an extreme outlier. It's neither capable of going +200 without crashing without a load and still somehow capable of tolerating higher clocks to begin with.

Quote from: chup on December 10, 2017, 09:28:21 AM

Quote from: bensam1231 on December 08, 2017, 07:06:36 PM

lol this isn't open for debate, although cute that you think it is, you have to defend your third world brethren. The average person earn $10 per year in your country, if you earn $100 per year, you're earning 10x what they're earning, that would be considered 'rich' by comparison to people in their country. Same as if you earned $200,000 in the US compared to $20,000 per year you'd be considered pretty rich (although that depends on where you live in the US).

The whole 'rich' term is subjective. There is no baseline for 'rich'. You can live in Uganda and say you're rich because you're earning 100x the average citizens income, but that's still peanuts depending on where else you're living in the world.

And again,.... You have no idea what You are talking about. Prices for expensive and luxury things here are HIGHER than in the countries with higher GDP.

LOL... And 'rich' which is a completely subjective term relates to how much money you have and make compared to your average money making countryman, not what you buy with it. You could buy 20 stocks of celery instead of barely being able to afford one and not be starving, depending on where you live that's 'rich' you silly goose. When you compare your buying power on a global scale you're no longer talking about being rich anymore and it was one of my original points. 'Rich' depends on where you live compared to the GDP per capita, which is why someone can claim to be rich, but isn't remotely rich when compared to the rest of the world.

Also I hear you can get things shipped pretty much anywhere. 'shipping is so expensive', look into a relay service. Solving basic problems for the affluent, you're welcome.

Also even if you live in a first world country, buying things like electronics for instance can be 'more expensive' then other countries simply due to demand, taxes, and where they're shipped. For instance buying GPUs in the US vs Germany or France or really anywhere in Euroland.

Quote from: Kompik on December 10, 2017, 11:03:52 AM

No he is right. Forcing P0 is important for memory intensive algos, you will never get high OC stable unless you force it. I dont know what +500 is, but every 1070 card brand and type of memory runs easily on 4400 MHZ, the better ones, samsung especially can go over 4500 being stable all the time.

You already know what +500 is based on your own knowledge. If you aren't forcing p0 you would be p2 and 200 lower then p0. That would be 4500. Weird we're at the same memory speed only I don't need to use p0.

If you mine Ethereum look into low intensity dag generation, I'm the person who got Claymore to add it to his miner. Maybe after playing around with it for a bit you'll figure out why.