Quote from: EleanorZ on December 09, 2017, 01:18:19 AM

Quote from: Hemady17 on December 09, 2017, 12:22:05 AM

Tokenpay's whitepaper did not include spectre as a credentials. Meaning to say, it does not came from spectre's idea. We cannot appoint anyone of them who had stolen this feature. Tokenpay started on 2010, so I think tokenpay had already idea about that before they began to make a project.

Those are two separate issues. The 2010 'TokenPay' wasn't blockchain based; it was just an idea that failed to get off the ground. But the idea hung around, and in 2017 a group of people got together and applied elements of the original TokenPay vision to blockchain technology. So on the one hand you have the high-level idea for TokenPay, which did indeed originate in 2010 (according to the whitepaper); on the other hand you have the specific technology that is now, after 7 years, being used to realize that idea. That technology was only applied to the idea in 2017, and the technology was, indeed, copied over from a combination of ShadowCash and SpectreCoin. Basically, they needed a blockchain on which to run the TokenPay idea (bank, exchange, etc.), and rather than building their own they chose to copy existing tech. No one is saying they copied SpectreCoin's vision per se; they're saying that TokenPay is realizing their own vision by exploiting the work of others. And again, that is a separate question from whether this represents a good investment.

To be honest TokenPay feels like it's rather cleverly taking advantage of the massive influx of new investors who have been attracted by the BTC spike, but know nothing about crypto in general. The branding and whitepaper are very focussed around the 'Bitcoin on steroids' message--like, oh boy, we've taken Bitcoin, you know, that thing that you heard about in the news, and made it even better! That sounds very exciting indeed if you don't know about the literally thousands of projects that have come and gone over the past several years, or the fact that there are many other privacy-oriented tokens (XSPEC? PIVX? Never heard of 'em!), blockchain-based bank/exchange/debit ideas, and so on. It annoys me that people are so ignorant, but at the same time it's also a comment on how bad most cryptos are at branding and self-promotion. I can't really begrudge the TokenPay team for taking advantage of that. If TokenPay does succeed at the expense of other projects that came earlier and do the same thing but failed to market themselves, well, it's a dick move by TokenPay but ultimately the others will have only themselves to blame.

The rarity of sensical discussion on this forum. Man, I find you refreshing.