Quote from: ceaa on December 09, 2017, 11:35:31 PM

Quote from: tommyleung on December 09, 2017, 09:40:54 PM

Quote from: envion on November 12, 2017, 11:07:36 AM

Quote from: neeraj3296 on November 11, 2017, 06:30:56 PM

I really appreciate the effort.Everyone should go through your finding before Investing.

We would actually appreciate a bit more of an effort before people start making accusations.

The OP did not do a simple Google search on incorporating a company in Switzerland before insinuating that we are operating dishonestly.

Here's the first Google result for me: https://startups.ch/en/inform/foreignentrepreneurs/faq/

You will see that CHF 150,000 were invested because that's the amount required for a public limited company. The ICO cost is estimated at $1.5 million which has mostly been raised already. Details in the WP.

Our CEO was indeed a journalist and has since had a two-decade career in the energy industry and runs an energy investment firm: http://www.quadrat-capital.com/management/

He has a very public profile and has helped lead many startups to success in the energy industry.

We have filed for a patent for our high-efficiency air cooling system. Our legal team estimates that it will be processed and available for your confirmation on the DPMA registration site in the next week or two. Patent filing number: 102017125540.0. We did not develop this technology in one month, but over the course of many months of R&D.

Operating in stealth mode during R&D and product development is a normal processespecially in the hardware businessto protect the intellectual property of the company and the negotiations with suppliers and customers until they are finalized. Envion was made public when it made business sense to do so and our website, LinkedIn profiles, etc reflect that. We know that anyone knowledgeable about startups and business understands how secrecy during the incubation period can be essential to success.

Now that we are public, we are operating with full transparency and we would encourage everyone to investigate and question our business. However, we would also like the opportunity to engage directly with everyone so that we can answer questions before any accusations of dishonesty. The OP has shown a complete unwillingness to engage in dialogue with us. I hope you do your research and see how we have responded and go through ALL the public information on envion. Please also do us the courtesy of informing yourself on the normal requirements and practices for businesses in our industry.

Lastly, envion's success is dependent on contracts with major energy industry customers. Regulation is the norm in that industry and it is certainly normal for our team. We operate transparently and in full compliance with financial and business regulations, not just because those are our values and we should do so to protect the investments of ICO participants, but also because one cannot operate in the energy industry if one is not in full compliance.

We don't know how ICO scams operate and we have no interest in it. We are offering a security token that is already complaint with SEC and Swiss financial authority regulations. Envion is working to be traded on regulated exchanges. We have outside auditors and partnerships with public research institutions. It's shameful that unknown people with no social proof of identity can make accusations and threats about our business and that their claims are accepted with no scrutiny. Please do your due diligence before amplifying their message.

hi envion (or AzakeB or Sparky71),

i'm just catching up on all the information about envion...in your above post from about a month ago...you mentioned that "We have filed for a patent for our high-efficiency air cooling system. Our legal team estimates that it will be processed and available for your confirmation on the DPMA registration site in the next week or two. Patent filing number: 102017125540.0. We did not develop this technology in one month, but over the course of many months of R&D."...

i tried going to the DPMA registration site to find out more about this but perhaps i wasn't doing it right...i was unable to find the relevant information...

is this the right place to go to https://depatisnet.dpma.de/DepatisNet/depatisnet?action=einsteiger?

it will be great if you can advise how i can search for the Patent filing number: 102017125540.0.

thanks,
tommy

Apparently it takes a while for this information to show up on the DPMA web portal. If you really wish to verify the existence of the patent, then you must call DPMA directly to inquire about it.

No idea where to find it, maybe someone from envion can offer a link for that claim.

What is MUCH MIRE INTERESTING is that the name ENVION is Trademarked, also in Electrical Appliances etc. under 4264383 to be found at WIPO, so probably they must change their name pretty soon.
Its the same company that can be found at envion.com