Quote from: realr0ach on December 09, 2017, 10:24:36 PM

I don't know what your argument is here. Failure to help the universe limp towards heat death is a human malfunction? I don't know what you're trying to say. If there was a benefit in doing what you claim, then wouldn't you, yourself climb into a rocket launched towards space and then set it to explode soon after reaching orbit to spread pieces of Anonymint around and infect as many random parts of the galaxy as possible? It seemed like you were trying to say there is some type of unified goal of all things to maximize entropy where none really exists. You're definitely not practicing what you preach here or you would have to impersonate a late stage sun and blow yourself up.

Failure in that context is just what it is, as so defined in my prior post. Fungible systems are long-tail fragile (but near-term antifragile¹) because they tend to centralized control. Period. Decentralized systems are near-term fragile (because they can lose focus/organization on some information) but long-term resilient and antifragile.

Im not inserting a moralistic (universal goal) argument. Nature is a mix of near-term progress via top-down organization (e.g. species selection) and long-term resilience via decentralized fitness (e.g. cultural transfer):²

Quote from: CornCube on December 07, 2017, 11:35:29 PM

Only Dark Age I could imagine would be if we somehow made ourselves extinct by meddling in our genome. Our rate of technological+cultural evolution is moving much faster than the species selection process of evolution can anneal, so it is possible we could loose too much information and create a huge accidental extinction (a concept that argues against too much decentralization which @CoinCube had first pointed out to me with a biological model). The paradigm is Transhumanism.

¹ _{Credit @CoinCube with pointing that out years ago.}

² _{Note how species selection is also decentralized w.r.t. all species while being top-down w.r.t. to members of a species. Conversely note that cultural transfer is long-term resilient w.r.t. to members of the species but doesnt necessary address inter-species fitness. Thus the perspective on what is top-down or decentralized is also relativistic, i.e. fractal patterns within patterns which oscillate between local effects and entanglement at a distance. This is what I want to explore next for a TOE.}

P.S. Fitness requires a relativistic interpretation of reality:

Quote from: https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/09/06/492779594/what-if-evolution-bred-reality-out-of-us

" ... an organism tuned to fitness might see small and large quantities of some resource as, say, red, to indicate low fitness, whereas they might see intermediate quantities as green, to indicate high fitness. Its perceptions will be tuned to fitness, but not to truth. It won't see any distinction between small and large it only sees red even though such a distinction exists in reality."