Quote from: fm1984 on December 10, 2017, 08:09:15 PM

Quote from: AzakeB on December 06, 2017, 09:17:23 PM

Real people from a real company invited to a real investor meetup in Berlin. They showcased their MMU and everything seemed to be very solid.
It feels you didn't assess this project enough.

That is not the point, I think you don't get it actually. Surely they are real, the main point is

The idea of putting 90 ASIC miners in a container and claiming with 25% reinvestment budget they can compete with large industrial mining farms, in a time difficulty goes up while new miners come every few months, and promising 160% profit in the first year, is RIDICULOUS. They clearly don't understand how the mining industry works. Bitmain D3 and L3+ miners for example barely make profit. Imagine them putting this miners in their MMU. Just do the math! But nice for you that you met this real people! Just don't count on that 160% in first year. I dare you, please invest and let me know in one year how you fared lol

You are talking about mining and missing the whole purpose of MMUs and it's unique way acquiring deals with renewable energy plants, while bitmain just sits in some places where it's getting cheap power.
Difficulty can be calculated and is considered already in the ROI.
You are missing out the whole point of envion but hey if you want to talk about mining in general, there are several other threads.
Moreover where in my statement do I not get the point of what gabrielepopa is accusing?

you are talking about mining, he is talking about something else.