Quote from: firefop on June 30, 2013, 06:27:56 AM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 30, 2013, 05:06:52 AM

According to Josh, it was a requirement, hence promising in-two-weeks^TM, thereabouts, they'll have certificate in hand.

As far as your UL statement. Then why do TV makers have UL tags affixed to the back of their TVs when they're already covered from doing such via the power cord?

Did you forget about the CE certification, or do you have a logical reason for that too not being required?

BTW, I forgot about the permit that wasn't pulled during the remodeling of their new facility. Prey tell the reason why they didn't get one or needed it.

I swear you and I have been through this before B. UL is an optional certification... it certifies that a device isn't going to melt down, explode or light itself on fire. You get UL certifications on transformers because no retailer would sell them without since they handle attachment to the electric grid. Anything using an external or aftermarket power supple to convert AC to DC doesn't require (and in fact wouldn't qualify for) UL certification.

As for CE certification... who cares - this product is produced in USA and has no reason to file certs with every self-important regulatory board on the planet.

Exactly what permit are you talking about. If you're talking about the customization of the interior of their new location. Depending on the location permits might not be required. You are not for example required to get permits for freestanding non-load bearing walls built inside an existing structure as long as they don't have internal power conduits or water/gas pipes inside of them. It's quite common for companies here to purchase an overlarge warehouse, build a U shaped balcony around 3 sides of it with work/storage areas over top and offices underneath... they do this because they can use the existing power/water/gas in the warehouses external walls and don't have to get permits for the build then.

Addressing the UL aspect:

I'll assume every college dorm has a policy in place similar to the following: http://www.mvcc.edu/housing/summer-2013-room-agreement

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Cooking is not allowed in the Residence Hall rooms or public areas. The possession or use of ANY heat producing cooking appliance is prohibited.
Exceptions to this are 1- the use of the microwave oven provided in each Residence Hall, 2- the use of a Microwave only in the New Hall Gathering
Area and 3- the kitchen equipment available for student use. Air conditioners, space heaters, coffee pots, electric blankets, heating pads, holiday
lights, microwave ovens in student bedrooms, lava lamps, halogen lamps, neon signs, power tools and any other electrical appliance/device that, in the
opinion of the staff or the New York State Office of Fire Prevention and Control, is hazardous to operate in the Residence Halls is prohibited. Clothes
irons and Hair Straighteners/Curling Irons must be auto-shut off. Any non-prohibited electrical appliance/device used by a student must be UL
approved

If somebody is aware of a college that doesn't have such a policy in place, please make me aware of it, whereupon I will do everything in my powers to make sure they do have one otherwise they'll be shut down.

That said, we all know here that there are bitcoiners who will be using these miners in their dorms taking advantage of the free electricity. The miners will have to be UL listed and approved by the institute.

Do you honestly believe that any college will allow ANY bitcoin mining rig on their premises without a UL listed tag of sorts affixed to the unit? Do you honestly believe that any higher education institute will allow an unlist UL device to be run unattended, especially since they're known to put off excess heat?

I predict that within only two very short years every university and college in the US will specifically ban ALL Bitcoin miners from being on campus in dorms. Why? For the safety of the children due to them being a fire hazard.

Now, do we see how important a UL listed sticker thingy is?

Apologies if I came across terse, firefop. (Ironic! I just realized that fire is part of your pseudonym)