Quote from: helixone on June 30, 2013, 06:58:46 PM

Quote from: TECHICENINE on June 30, 2013, 06:43:32 PM

Quote from: helixone on June 30, 2013, 06:38:59 PM

Quote from: helixone on June 30, 2013, 06:16:03 PM

Quote from: kokojie on June 30, 2013, 02:10:29 PM

It's going parabolic. AM's value didn't go up 40% in 2 days, so why should the share price be. This is a bubble.

Although I already posted this in the main thread, I'd like commentary on this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2550665#msg2550665 (And please consider it a counter post to your bubble theory).

-helixone

I'll also add that AM really can't go parabolic like bitcoin. Because it's a real business, valuation will have some play in sales to slow it down. Bitcoins themselves are impossible to price. Is a bitcoin worth $1 or $1000? Either are valid answers, if you can get someone to pay that, as there is no pricing model or point of comparison.

I'll also add my high end in this model should not be considered a cap, as it was published before FC issued the statement committing him to 800-1000TH by year end.

That statement kinda makes the 1.5 divs in my estimates a surer thing, and more of a floor. (I was initially factoring that even if he didn't keep up percentages, they will in any case make up for it in HW sales.)

NOW, we have to adjust for that, and it's hard because competition could have an outsized impact her. I'm not ready to give a new price, but I no longer would consider above 5.75 overpriced, and am now considering it the actual value of AM, with any price below that undervalued.

-helixone

fyi/\ASICMINER is not real business it's a "virtual security" on a popular game\/website...thanks

You point being? Perhaps I should have prefaced "real'" with "bitcoin", IE: It's a real "bitcoin" business. I fact I'd argue with the *possible* exception of Gox, it is, and likely continue to remain to be the most valuable bitcoin business in existence.

Factor in that no-one has really caught on yet, and bubble is not something we can talk about yet. Take a look at a Google News search: https://www.google.com/search?q=asicminer&&tbm=nws Only really two articles to speak of, and neither is from your typical "bubble news" factories. (The Men's Daily News article is actually a surprisingly informative intro to bitcoin-assets.)

My point being that perhaps it's a little overextended, and needs "5 mins" to consolidate, but certainly not a bubble, and is likely undervalued yet.

-helixone

imo shares are manipulated/\up as rats jump ship in an attempt to trade out of_BTC_reboot\/mode..thanks