Quote from: Vod on December 12, 2017, 06:33:11 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 12, 2017, 06:30:37 PM

Quote from: Vod on December 12, 2017, 06:26:59 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 12, 2017, 06:25:21 PM

No. There is nothing like God being allowed. He controls all things and beyond.

So NOW you are saying he can control his children, he just let's them destroy themselves?

And he has planned to let them destroy themselves from the beginning?

They wouldn't be His children if they didn't have free will. Some of them use their free will to remain on His side. That's what free will is all about.

So they have free will, but god knows exactly what they are going to do.

Six thousand years ago he made a giant list of people he was going to create but through free will they would destroy themselves.

But it's ok to torture them because they are his children.

Nice god lol...

Since some of them are going to be saved, you post from ignorance.

Continue to use your free will to be against God, and you will have tortured yourself.

Cool