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That's the point. All the experiments that seem to prove that evolution is real, are cause and effect things. They are done by people, otherwise they wouldn't be experiments. People are the cause, and the effect is whatever it is.

But way beyond that is the fact that all the things that people do are cause by whatever cause them to do them. So, evolution is cause and effect stuff. But since the description of evolution includes stuff that doesn't fall into the class of C&E, evolution is false. It's as simple as that.

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You mean cause and effect that was set in motion by zeus right?

There you go, turning science into religion, again. You don't seem to understand the simple difference between science and religion. No wonder you believe in evolution.

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God also falls into C&E, god has a cause therefore it's a hoax.

Cause and effect are effect are the way this universe works. C&E doesn't necessarily apply to God, Who was outside this universe at least when He made it.

Talking religion again, right?

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Why would it not affect him just because he is outside the universe? Of course it does, C&E affects God therefore God is a hoax programmed by something else. C&E shows programming. Why religion? I thought God was already scientifically proven, no?

Because if it affected Him from the standpoint that it affects us, then He would have been part of this universe. Are you trying to say that God created Himself right along with this universe? There is no evidence of that in anything that we have found.

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Of course you don't see any goddamned evidence, your head is buried in the sand. Also, creation of the earth / universe isn't even related to evolution and only scientifically illiterate people, such as yourself, believe the two to be the same.

You don't have to get all upset like that. You are a truth seeker, right? And since I have shown you the all-pervading cause and effect, so that evolution has been proven to you to be a hoax, you should be overjoyed that the truth has finally been expressed to you.

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How does cause and effect prove evolution is not real? Mutations have a cause, the effect is evolution, your point?