@theymos, this isnt what you signed up for! Not the downtime, and not the followingas seen through Tor. Not changed by rotating circuits. I cant dump cookies, because I need to stay logged in; and once Cloudflare decided to demand from me an Internet cavity search, they locked me out of bitcointalk.org with a demand that I let them run their executable code on my machine. I waited it out, and they eventually let me pass.

Cloudflare also repeatedly tried to Google-CAPTCHA me on their error pages. No, thanks; I can do without seeing the holy secret errors.

This interrupted my repeated attempts to post the following. (Anybody awaiting a reply from me elsewhere, please understand if it may be slow in coming.)

Quote from: theymos on November 29, 2017, 08:07:39 PM

I especially dislike Cloudflare, which I'm almost certain is basically owned by US intelligence agencies.

Quote from: hilariousetc on December 13, 2017, 05:22:29 PM

Quote from: jojo69 on December 13, 2017, 04:59:30 PM

it isn't working

Yeah, I'm not sure it even works very well because every other website that uses it seems to have a lot of downtime and cloudflare errors. There's seemingly no difference between when we had theymos' own version and it's been especially bad today. Barely been able to use the site at all, so not sure how effective the service really is if the forum is still going to be unusable.

Ive oftentimes wondered how Cloudflare can afford to offer free DDoS protection. Their product requires serious network bandwidth, hardware, sysadmin, and engineering. Those cost moneylots of money.

Usually, free products which cost big money to offer can be explained with the aphorism, You are not the customer; you are the product. That raises the question, who pays?

In practice, who pays? is isomorphic to the ancient idiom: Cui bono?

You are the product. Bitcointalk.org is now a product. For whom? And does the customer truly wish for Bitcointalk.org to succeed?

At that, does Cloudflare itself like customers who especially dislike Cloudflare? One of the great benefits of dependence on huge centralized anti-DDoS companies is that you cant bite the hand which feeds youat least, not more than that hand will deign to tolerate. Too bad. Even if this is only some generalized Cloudflare failure, I doubt that theymos stands at the front of their support queue.

Quote from: ibminer on December 13, 2017, 06:34:54 PM

Connectivity has sucked all day. NSA must have finally implemented their traffic analyzer Grin

Quote from: theymos on November 29, 2017, 08:07:39 PM

The Internet is seriously flawed if everyone needs to huddle behind these huge centralized anti-DDoS companies in order to survive...

Cloudflare is seriously flawed if your homemade DDoS protection works better than theirs.