It's regretful that we have to ban anyone from the Telegram channel, but we have a responsibility to our 12,000 members to encourage productive and respectful discussion. Every member has the opportunity to ask questions and get answers. It is our responsibility to communicate accurate information about envion to those who are interested. It's possible that you may not find satisfaction in our answers. The polite response to that situation is to move on to another topic or leave the group.
Repeating the same question and ignoring requests by admins and other members to stop cluttering the group and trolling is not an acceptable response and one that leads to sanctions. Your questions will never get you banned, a bad attitude is certain to get you banned.
Envion does not reveal its suppliers or pricing information. Period. This information falls under the trade secrets category for any and every business and revealing it not only jeopardizes the relationship with suppliers, but it also reveals information that could give competitors an advantage. It is no coincidence that the people most dissatisfied with our refusal to provide this information are in fact competitors.
@Saschaman is a competitor. He knows that given the small number of hardware suppliers, it's very easy to determine where hardware is coming fromeven if information on the deals is heavily redacted. Saschaman admitted so much on Telegramsimultaneously saying we should just black out certain information, but also saying that it would be easy to determine what sources are.
Envion considers this type of questioning to be an adversarial attack by a competitor.
We are confident that our investors understand that banning competitors for rudely demanding trade secrets is done as a protection for their investment.
From what Laurent was saying I dont think so they going to release anything, and when I asked about it, and said they promised it and tried to push my argument he banned me, so I guess its just build a hype as much as you can keep sheeple until near ico then dont release anything cuz u got nothing, sheeple will send ETH/BTC anyway.
Laurent banned me for asking to release any of proofs or documents that they promised here or in telegram.
I wasnt rude. I am interested in investing. I even explained him he can black out critical info.
All they say is no warn u if u ask again then ban u.
Tell ppl to use search function.
Anyway its day to ico and they promised to release some info.
I bet none will be.
Looks like this ico is based on promises and hype only.
Its okay if u invest 1000 or 2000$ but its not if you want invest 100 000 or 300 000 is it?
If you ask some hard proofs they will ban you. Yeh so other sheep won't see it.
Absolute bullshit
Actually, certain proofs and documents are promised to be released before the ICO. Right now, it's just a matter of waiting to see what information can be released and confirmed. The timing is unfortunate in terms of how late the information is, but let's see what we get in the next 24 hours.