Quote from: kingaltcoins on December 20, 2017, 12:36:15 PM

Quote from: redigaffi on December 20, 2017, 12:17:41 PM

Lightning nodes will remove the decentralization, and those who hold those nodes will have the power. Who will hold these nodes? The banks. Bitcoin sold his soul.

Who told you that bullshit?

Lightning nodes will be implemented in wallet services which we use today like Mycellium, Copay, Coinomi etc. and also on some hardware wallets like Trezor, Ledger etc. On the contrary, Coinbase already has some kind of "off-chain" transaction capabilities between Coinbase users from their inception.
No nodes will have the power to alter any terms and conditions of lightning network payment channels since they'll be controlled solely between the buyer and the seller. Nodes will just act as a medium to conduct the processes.

People like Roger Ver is brainwashing new individuals like you into thinking that lightning network = centralization. It's their own altcoin which is = centralization since miners have the power to control the block sizes in their bcash crap coin.

I'm a small blocker, but mining is the aspect of bitcoin that was designed to decentralize. It requires work to do so people can't just mine for free. It requires investment for your vote to count. This is why we mine.

So if miners control the network, then bitcoin is working as designed.