Quote from: didi-man on December 22, 2017, 01:47:07 PM

Jordans bad reputation in forex market is detrimental for this coin, getting his face and name up there is a good thing but only works if your track record is good, in this case we have many complaints and it works against Nucleus.

It doesnt take much to google his name, now the fact he is trading in forex market again, place where he failed doesn't help.

The best would be to remove himself form nucleus and new hire ceo, fresh one with good track record or no record at all.

Price is gone to the toilet, trade occurs every half hour on dex, its not about spreading fud, im still in this coin for for fk sake this coin should be flying if done properly.

Please hire some marketing strategist and adviser, perception is you created worthless coins on waves and now we are bagholders hoping for miracle.

If you go through the thread - you'll notice there's a ton of newbie comment with less than 20 posts (usually 2-3 posts from an account that is usually only a few weeks or 2-3 months old). On Facebook, his group delete comments that are critical (see previous posts), and rig ratings to make it look 4/5+. Most of the reviews look fake, or referrals, and notice a large amount of 'reviews' from Africans and Indians. As if these places have a lot of capital for investing anyways Wink

If it's not clear already, it's obvious he's hired people in other countries (India and/or Africa) or through referrals to shill his coin (Source: https://www.facebook.com/Bitcoin-Growth-Bot-1987165431498282/reviews/ and https://web.archive.org/web/20171222165658/https://www.facebook.com/Bitcoin-Growth-Bot-1987165431498282/reviews/ in case they try to remove).

Remember Jordan Lindsey has made claims in the past of being able to turn $1,000 into $100,000 and 2000% a year returns in Forex Roll Eyes

Source: https://www.valforex.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/lindsey-of-aggressive-returns-promises-the-impossible.png He says: 30% a return per month on average AND in Forex. LOL. Another red flag, btw, because he doesn't have a myfxbook account to track his results, and any reputable Forex trader worth a damn will at least show that (not that there are really any and if they were, they wouldn't be peddling to random people on the internet). Same types of promises he's making here now on this ICO.

So it's clear to anyone who isn't a shill, that this is just another infomercial-type peddling get rich quick schemester. Guys like this will never learn how to act in a professional, and ethical manner, but fortunately, karma is a biznatch. Crooks only care about much money they can legally squeeze from consumers. Again: go on google, look at reviews - going back YEARS ago. He thinks that ICOS are the next hot thing for a quick buck, so might as well con some unsuspecting and gullible people.

There are a few classic signs of this being a scam for your future reference (if it isn't glaringly obvious already):

1) Bad feedback of Jordan Lindsey going back to TEN years ago (so not likely that people are trying to harm this 'ICO'). Jordan burned customers' funds making him profitable on commissions, but making his 'clients' broke. No successful forex trader uses the 'strategies' he uses.
2) His website is recently registered (another red flag), and is sketchy as heck. He didn't have the savviness to create a website that looks authentic. Evidence? Go to his website: jcls-forex.com and bitcoingrowthbot.io . It's clear he didn't spend the money on a professional looking MODERN website. Looks like it was made in 5 minutes.
3) No information on where this company is located (including address).
4) A man who failed at trading on Forex, making similar claims of his bot being able to do similar performance.
5) Most WAVES "hedge fund manager" type bots, if not all, are scams.
6) There are likely poor people who are shilling for this coin from India/Africa/wherever to get referrals and hope this might give them a chance to pump and dump the coin. He also deletes posts that are critical of his bitcoingrowthbot on facebook.
7) The bot is doing atm around 10% monthly return, but in a bullish market. Does not mean much.
8 ) He markets the bitcoin growth bot through 'aggressive' referrals, and shilling. The only ones pumping this turd are the ones who bought pre-ICO at 50 cents or got the coins for free through referral pumping.
9) No one is going to buy coins at $2-3 in 2-3 weeks LOL for a shamcoin on a shit Forex market from a sketchy guy with horrible past performance. Look at the volume - no will will buy.
10) Most importantly: They had an ICO, but no team? There is literally no one hired (Source: https://i.imgur.com/5XSTgxU.png). No devs, no nothing. Predictably, there would not be any Cheesy

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All in all, if you threw money on this 'coin' you might as well get out. You got scammed. There won't be any other CEO for this scam coin, or any team, because it's a get rich quick scheme for the owner.

From: http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-reviews/387/www.jcls-forex.com

Note: All these comments were written months and YEARS before "Bitcoin Growth Bot" website was registered. It is clear to anyone with a normal IQ that there is a pattern of abuse, and dishonesty with this man (which has been demonstrated throughout this thread as well).

1. "Commission grabber only!!! Jordan has become a "commission grabber" and will trade accounts to zero for broker fees. In the YEARS that he has been selling his services, he hasn't had a successfull venture - STOP INVESTING WITH HIM!!!" - March 5, 2017

2. "Jordan has days or weeks were he gets good returns and it is those weeks he markets to the masses. Overall and in the long term nothing but losses.
Opened 1250.00 small account to "test" see if what he claims is even close to REAL." March 2016. As of today - Feb 6 - 2017 - 11 months later my real money test account sits at 37.00. DO NOT PUT MONEY INTO THIS!" - February 7, 2017

3. "Do not be naive like I was. It is a robbery...Steady ROI drop down 50% within 2-3 weeks....I lost lot of money...Never ever. If I traded randomly with a solid money management, I would not be able to "reach" what Mr. Lindsay showed me. Almost 30% down with 1 trade...
DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE !!!!!" - January 17, 2017

4. "Low on return. High on promises. Had an account for.5 months. Finally decided my money( down 15% since may 1st) is better off elsewhere." - October 6, 2016

5. "I opened a small $500 account to use his copy trading. He advertised that his goal is to make a 30% return monthly. I was skeptical but he showed some reports where in some months he made about 30-40% so I thought ok, even if he can make 10% a month that is still good. To be fair he does advise that he can get to 30% drawdown. Within 2.5 months my account was down 33%. As of today it is down about 22%. His system takes a lot of trades ( probably way too many). This is definitely not for those who can't deal with big drawdowns like 20 - 30 %. For those people I would say stay away. He does respond to your emails fairly promptly for someone who trades nonstop like a machine. At the end of 1 year he might end up with an average of 5-15% monthly but making 30 % 1 month and losing 20 % the following month is too much for most people to handle. I would not recommend." - September 21, 2016

6. "terrible, having previously given 5 stars for his chat room many years ago, decided to go with his managed forex service with tallinex. 78% drawdown in less than 10 days, closed out the managed account. 152 trades. he claimed 3+% loss in his account and said that the managed account is leveraged 3 times. this was ofcourse not disclosed before. Even at my worst trading, havent had a drawdown that big. very let down. so people do your own due deligence...." - March 20, 2015

7. "Jordan Lindsey is as bad as they come. I didn't rate him a SCAM because I believe he is just incompetent and not intentionally inept. I was with him a year and lost a ton of money following his systems to the letter. Everything he put out lost money. When I left him he was reduced to "teaching" how to day trade. I spent two sessions with that and knew I couldn't take any more. Stay away. You'll lose money." - August 14, 2007"

tl;dr - If Mr. Lindsey was honest - he'd disclose his past performance on his past Forex trads, but he can't because he knows his results are nowhere near where he claims. Currently, bitcoin growth bot is generating something like 10% monthly gain in a bull market. Compared to just buying and holding any major coin like bitcoin, litecoin, monero, etc. that will almost practically 2-5x+ in 2018. We're in the age of crypto - Forex is in the past, and a sketch market.

P.S. It also would not surprise me if Mr. Jordan Lindsey pre-ICOed the coins for 50 cents, and also sold them for $1.00. THAT's the exit scam combined with a bot that has abysmal returns in a bull market. All of the risk, little return.

It's clear that for years this guy has been making enticing people with promises of huge gains, and then conveniently hiding his failure rate. That's the definition of a crook. When called out for this, his only response is "customers knew what the were getting into" because it was "aggressive." Yeah, aggressive losse for clients, and aggressive gains for Mr. Lindsey Cheesy

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So if it isn't clear already - the only ones shilling this are either Jordan Lindsey, or the referrals looking for any gullible people to dump their shitcoins onto. No one (including Jordan) really expect this to outperform the cryptocurrency market in 2018, or in general. Cheesy