Quote from: aliashraf on December 22, 2017, 08:04:52 PM

Quote from: TMAN on December 22, 2017, 05:53:02 PM

Quote from: MrWan on December 22, 2017, 03:25:28 PM

Thank you Aliashraf! Your input is greatly appreciated and provides me better insight to trades done publicly like this. It's unfortunate to find out that there are so many scams that are going on to take advantage of people who are just looking to invest their hard earned dollars into the next innovative idea. I'll be more careful next time and in good faith that's what this world should be about. People helping each other out. Thanks a bunch!!

This is horseshit.. sorry alia bud not all escrows are scum like OG.. try Lauda or minerjones they will assist and be happy for the business.

This whole thread screams scam and you are just retarded mr wan

{For the record: I didn't called OG a scammer, I just complained about his shitty attitude}

I don't understand the reason behind your aggression against MrWan. In Wikipedia community one of the most important, nut shell guidelines is avoiding harassment against newcomers. In their words: 'Don't bite new members' or something like that. This user is obviously a descent buyer who has published his agreement with a senior member of this forum to achieve better security, nothing more!

Back to the main controversy here: Escrow or not escrow, it is the problem!

From my point of view, the need for escrow has a reverse proportion with the social capital. A community has always a measurable amount of social capital that can be used as a facility to boost trade.

Once you insist on the absolute necessity of escrow in this forum you are implying that bitcointalk has accumulated a very low level of social capital. It is a false argument imo. Bitcointalk is the most important reference for crypto ecosystem. Almost all respected and prominent figures in this ecosystem own a legendary id here and most importantly, most bitcoiners are a member or a visitor of this forum. and we are talking about a (currently) half a trillion dollars market.

It is absolutely irrational to overlook the potentials of this forum and stick to escrow discourse just like street smugglers or alike. I think there is a huge misunderstanding here about 'trustless' nature of blockchain based technologies like btc, eth. The protocol being 'trust free' (my terminology) doesn't mean saying no to any 'trust friendly' business model. Even the escrow based model is not trust free and I don't see any reason to get rid of trust forever.

In fact I'm a fan of trust myself. Whenever I use it, Ido business more conveniently and more agile and I enjoy a lot more as it reminds me of how great is living and interacting like a human in civilized society.

Anyway, I recommended googling this phrase 'social capital' and I suppose you didn't care Cheesy

to start you can check this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_capital

og fucked me out of .25 bitcoin...

pretty sure that makes him a scammer

I highly suggest against trading on this forum.

Yesterday I gave a bunch of ingrates access to their funds and they still haven't done shit that properly benefits me. Huh

makes you wonder why they are allowed access in the first place.

And when you sit down and wonder who's ripping people off, it's the same group of maybe 5 people pretending to be more than 5 people.