Quote from: mobodick on July 08, 2013, 06:43:23 AM

Quote from: FreedomEqualsRiches on July 08, 2013, 12:24:18 AM

A lot of logical fallacies going on here, and logical level-crossing.
Genetics is a method of optimizing resource use to achieve goals, and brains are simply an faster way of doing so than genetics alone.

Talking about logical fallacies Roll Eyes

Genetics is not a method, it is a research area.
What we find in the field of genetics has absolutely nothing to do with optimizing resources.
Genetics is all about adaptation for survival.
If resources are plenty then genetics does not care so optimizing for resources happens only when there is a real need for it.
Most of the time genetics just provides for better ways of reproducing.

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The human mind is also a seeker of local optima, shortest path to achieve certain goals, which often involve coercion.
The free-market is an organic result of human minds seeking optima, and not a "creation" in the sense that a car, gun, or space shuttle are creations.

The human mind is many things but only a small part of it is this local optima seeker.
The free market is an ideal fantasy thought up by theoretical economists. It can not exist unless forced because the human mind, as you note, often involves coercion as a solution. So by your own observation of the human mind you could not ever have emergence of truly free markets, simply because human minds do not work along those exact ideals.

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The free-market, also, by it's very nature, does not involve coercion.
The free-market has proven, time and time again, to be the optimal wealth distribution method, and as it is a natural result of the human desire to be more wealthy, as opposed to some clumsy system dreamed up by some ideologue (like Zeitgeist, communism, etc.), will always perform better, as it is the result of 4.5 billion years of evolution. (Evolution = seeking optima)

The free market does not involve coercion because it does not realy exist.
Tell me, what IS an optimal distribution of wealth?

Surely you would agree that getting resources to where they are needed is the more optimal solution for the long run for any society, right?
So how does free market make sure resources get to where they're needed and not to where people pay the most?
I don't realy see it happen.

Are you sure you are not just confusing the word 'optimal' with the word 'efficient' ?

What is the optimal distribution of wealth?

Well, you have free-market economies, which generally prosper, and everything else, which generally results in widespread poverty and death for those upon whom it is forced.

As to your assertion that the free-market does not exist, I can only sigh.