Quote from: Bitvigo Official on December 27, 2017, 01:59:44 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on December 26, 2017, 08:21:08 PM

(Possible) Scammers Profile Link: Bitvigo Official
I have not tried the site myself, I'm just trying to save some innocent victims.
He clearly only leaves all positive comments in his topic and deletes the rest. So far he's gained negative trust from 3 (non-DT) accounts.

What happened: Bitvigo Official opens several self moderated topics to promote his website (bitvigo.com). I posted in his thread to ask about things that don't add up on the website. I got a response, but after that my posts were deleted, so I open this topic.

My first (deleted) post:

The Dutch Chamber of Commerce is called KvK ("Kamer van Koophandel").

Can you explain to me how you got KvK number 669903 while the official KvK website tells me it doesn't exist (a KvK number should have 8 numbers)?

You claim to be part of ELEMANDER GROUP B.V., which according to has a different KvK number, and sells self-developed electronic devices.

The address on the website is a shared office building, the (official) address on the KvK website is an old residential apartment. Although this could be true, the official address certainly doesn't look like a location I would trust to send my money to.

My second (deleted) post:

Quote from: Bitvigo Official on December 26, 2017, 06:41:52 PM

... or check the The Dutch Chamber Of Commerce: https://www.kvk.nl/orderstraat/product-kiezen/?kvknummer=674299470000 .

That is what I just did, and it turns out it's different than what you're claiming.

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The KvK number was outdated, we updated the page.

I find it hard to believe you accidentally had the wrong KvK number on two different websites.

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www.company.info is not correct on there information.

Bedrijvenpagina.nl describes Elemander Group B.V. as a company that issues prepaid and debit Mastercards in the EU via post order. That does get closer indeed.
Forgive me for not believing anything I read on the internet, but if a financial company shows a wrong number, I think some questions are in place.

My gut feeling tells me the logos on the site (The telegraph, Business Insider, TechCrunch and The Times) are only there to inspire confidence, I can't find any mention of Bitvigo on their websites.

In one of his topics, he writes this:

Quote from: Bitvigo Official on December 26, 2017, 06:36:57 PM

Bitcoins & altcoins are not regulated or monitored in The Netherlands so we can't ask for any identification because of our strict privacy laws.

This is not true. Any (official) Bitcoin related company in the Netherlands requires AML/KYC data (higher monetary amounts require more verification), and laws are only getting stricter. Crypto is monitored, and I can't imagine a legit company would claim otherwise.

Any thoughts on this?

Hello LoyceV,

I don't know what you trying to do but you are in the very wrong. There is now way to think that we are not a real company, please do you research better the next time.
If you want to make that kind of accusation base it on real information not just loses text that a baby can put together.

First of all our website bitvigo.com has a EV ssl certificate that means that one of the world biggest security firm verified us as an legit company, there is no way that they make mistakes.
Second of all see here or company register in The Dutch Chamber of Commerce: https://www.kvk.nl/orderstraat/product-kiezen/?kvknummer=674299470000&origq=elemander+group

Our office is also shown on our website: http://elemander.com/contact-us.html

We delete you post because is bullsh*t because is has no no added value on the announcement that we placed, and you didn't react anymore to our answers.

And please don't think that you know the Dutch law better than a company who spends 100K per year on advisory service.
Read it for you self that Bitcoin or alt coins are NOT regulated and DON'T need KYC/AML requirements. https://www.advocaten-amsterdam.nl/1439/Wet-en-regelgeving-bitcoins (You need to translate it self)

Next time if you want to make an accusations please do you research and don't talk about things that you don't no about, don't make a fool of your self specially as an Legendary member

Best regards,
Team Bitvigo.com

HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA BITVIGO YOU MADE ME LAUGH HARD, PEICE OF SHIT THIS GUY IS. THERE IS NO COMPANY THEY STOLE MY HARD EARNED MONEY.

YES THEY WILL DELETE ALL POST ABOUT THE SCAM.

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A FAQ, THEY WILL BLOCK YOUR EMAIL.

HERE'S MY THREAD https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2405026.msg24603254#msg24603254

UNFORTUNATELY THIS FORUM HAS NO RULES TO RECOVER SCAMS THATS OKAY, BUT HIS ACCOUNT SHOULD BE DELETED.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY UNTIL HE REFUNDS ALL.

THANKS FOR SHARING IT, HE ATLEAST REPLYIES TO YOU.