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does anyone have more info about this miner?

what more info is there that you need? Its a crazy overpriced miner that has efficiency rivaled by the avalon 841 at double the price.

I guess you haven't seen the stats on the 841 or the current prices for S9.

Hop on ebay and tell me if you can find an S9 for less than $6000. Bitcoin going to $20k caused some serious fomo and there are way more buyeras than sellers right now. Best thing that could happen would be for bitcoin to fall under 10 and stay there for at least a week or two and get some people out of the market.

These machines are probably the most afffordable miners in the world right now.

There's an old saying: everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it. I'll happily pay $5000 for an 18th e10 while everyone else is paying $6000 for an s9

But I'm not paying $6,000 for an S9 I'm paying $2,700 from Bitmain.
When you put 13.5 TH/s for $2,700 VS 18 TH/s for $$5,200 it's not a good deal at all.
I can get 2 S9 so 27 TH/s for near the same price so I would say for hashing power the S9 is the most affordable miner for value right now...Or if noise and power consumption aren't an issue Pangolin miner have stock every few days for 11.5 TH/s for $1,188.

Agreed that a price dip in bitcoin would be beneficial for the price of miner's though.

Can you actually get the machine from bitmain, though? They usually sell out their pre-orders in minutes. If you've ever wondered why, it's because some people have done enough business with them that they can just make a phone call and pre-order the pre-order, leaving scraps for individual retail buyers. If you wait 3 months for delivery on your miners, it means you've missed out on 3 months of mining. Pangolin's got a more retail-friendly set up and they release new miners pretty quickly, but you've still only got minutes to get your order in for a machine that's not so great. For that price, why not just find yourself a pair of a6 and not have to wait?

To each their own, but I'd rather pay more and mine today.

Pay more and mine today?
You can't buy an E10 yet can you?

I would guess that you won't have an E10 in hand for at least a couple of months.
By that stage my S9's will have been mining already.
Yes you can actually get them from Bitmain I bought a dozen about a week and a half ago and I would say Bitmain will sell another batch of S9 before the E10 is on sale.

I wouldn't buy an A6 at this stage as I would actually need 3 to match the hash power of a pangolin miner and that would be about 3100w power consumption.
AT 2000w the Pangolin is within reason for me with the electricity price I pay but 3100w is too hungry for 10.5TH/s of 3 A6.
That idea may certainly be feasible for someone paying lower electricity cost though.

Certainly agree it has been ultra difficult to get the Pangolin miners.
I have failed with every batch over the last few weeks.
I was very lucky that a colleague of mine managed to get some and sold me some of his order.
Very nice guy.