Quote from: randomcloud on July 16, 2013, 09:19:55 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on July 16, 2013, 04:51:52 AM

Excuse me, but if anyone is wining here it is you. Even if you don't give a crap about the well being of criminals whatsoever, the fact still remains that society paid a great debt to bring that individual to adulthood, and will continue to pay huge debts to incarcerate them. Reparations are a substitute for revenge because the victim can profit from the labor of the perpetrator.

The existing criminal justice system is nothing but a machine designed to take good old American biblical eye for an eye blood lust and transform it into a corporate profit system that neither deters crime nor brings reparations to the victims. If you want to spend half of your paycheck paying to incarcerate alcoholics for being alcoholics, drug addicts for being drug addicts, and poor people for being poor that's fine - just don't expect the rest of society to help you. If you really think our country (taxpayers) can afford to keep incarcerating more than 2.5 million people and growing, you are truly ignorant. Go take your liberal bashing bullshit rhetoric to a liberal.

What you're arguing for is, can be, and would be used as a kind of revenge. Honestly, if I was someone looking for revenge, I'd *love* a system where someone I used the legal system to screw over would be forced to give me money and/or be my servant for a long time period. That'd be MUCH more humiliating than simply being sent to prison or punished in some other way. I'd LOVE to be able to emotionally abuse and bully them with no fear of recourse, with people like you supporting the abuse of the people you claim to protect 'cos you think it makes you look morally superior. Modern day indentured servitude for the win.

I actually dislike the American prison system too for the reasons you stated among many others, but ok.

You are correct, it is a form of revenge. A form of revenge that produces constructive results for society helping to reconstruct the damage the loss that individual caused, as well as reducing the incentive to turn prisons into a commercial endeavor which drives arrest quotas. This as opposed to a system which is not only NOT constructive but creates even a further burden on society.

In your little scenario you assume a lot of things, like you would personally be overseeing the criminal that committed a crime against you. That is pretty moronic even by your standards. No one in their right mind would put the life of a human in your hands. As you pointed out sadistic individuals like yourself would commit further crimes abusing that individual, most likely leading to that person murdering you in your home because they cant take it any more. You make lots of assumptions about me and why I have the opinions I do. I will be the one to decide why I have an opinion thank you.

Funny how you skipped over the whole funding of 2.5 million people in prison part. I wonder why?