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Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
by
titomane
on 22/07/2013, 10:51:05 UTC
Now that there is new data on die size, I updated the GH/wafer table:
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wafer(mm)   chip         process(nm)  die(mm^2)   GH/s(per die)      DpW   GH/s(per wafer)
300         KnC              28        441,00          25         128          3200,00
300         bitfury          55         14,44           2           4717          9434,00
300         bfl              65         56,25           4           1167          4668,00
300         asciminer(?)    130         17,50           0,333       3877          1291,04
300         avalon          110         16,13           0,282       4214          1188,35
300         asciminer(?)    130         21,7            0,333       3112          1036,30
(DpW, die per wafer; yield percentage not taken into account)

Die size is less than 336mm2.
I think 18x18mm


Another detail for a better table. As far as I know, 130nm(110nm) are still manufactured based on 200mm wafers. 65nm(55nm) nodes were the first built with 300mm.

Ummmm. KnC is doing a 28nm process and getting only a third of the GH/s per wafer that bitfury is getting at 55nm?
What's more concerning is the 25GH/s per die. Where is the data that says they are using 4 dies per package?



HERE


The slides says that it's only one die, containing 4 self-contained cores (quads).
A more correct table looks like that:
-> KnC die size estimated based on technology scaling
-> Source for Bitfury die size? Seems to be wrong. And chips are specified for 5GH/s per chip (not 2 GH/s)


Code:
wafer(mm)   chip         process(nm)  die(mm^2)   GH/s(per die)      DpW   GH/s(per wafer)
300         KnC              28        120,00           100         589          58904,00
300         bitfury          55         14,44           2           4847          9694,00
300         bfl              65         56,25           4           1244          4976,00
200         asciminer(?)    130         17,50           0,333       1795          597,74
200         avalon          110         16,13           0,282       1947          549,05
200         asciminer(?)    130         21,7            0,333       1447          477,51
(DpW, die per wafer; yield percentage not taken into account)

That is the real 28nm world! Wink


It is more likely that each chip is 4 DIE.
If die has 4cores with total size is 120mm^2 . 20 wafers are more than 1PHs. Why go to work on the second gen?