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Quote from: BitcoinBunny on January 09, 2018, 12:49:48 PM

I actually would regard using LN as the natural progression of scaling up peer to peer payments. Consider that much of the peer to peer traffic on the internet itself which we used to have has moved more to peer - "cloud" - peer system.

Good parallel.

Quote from: BitcoinBunny on January 09, 2018, 12:49:48 PM

Can't remember the last time I used a torrent program to get data.

... but if some data should get censored everywhere from "cloud peer" systems, it would spread through torrents like wildfire. That is, base blockchain transfers will always be an option, no matter what.

Not sure if I understood that correctly but if I did, I could view torrents being replaced by cloud services as a regression from a decentralised system back towards a more centralised one. Cloud services are provided by a small number of large companies.

You're right.

I expressed my thought clumsily. By "good parallel" I meant to make a point with those that are afraid LN means more centralization. It will also reduce costs, as peer-cloud-peer systems do: most peers don't need to keep seeding the torrent.

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Anyway I still find torrents useful.

I also still use them, even if they're not that fashionable anymore. What I failed to convey is that they will still be ready to use, and back in high demand, if (when!) circumstances (censorship) will make them necessary again.

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But anyway, thanks for a civilised response. I prefer reasoned debate than being told to fuck off.

Oh, well, fuck off then.

(J/k hehe...)

Sometimes being told to fuck off isn't that bad. JJG chose a nice big colourful font for it the other day which I quite liked. lol