Quote from: nukklehead on January 07, 2018, 08:32:55 PM

Quote from: oportunis on January 07, 2018, 02:57:16 PM

I wonder why people call it American dream

It used to be the American dream: individual liberty with individual responsibility.
The 'left' has ruined it... by selling theft of property by way of democratic election.

America is hurting yes, and hopefully "we" will learn and get better. Hopefully Obama was the bottom.

....stop voting democrat.

The bottom is the guy who is currently in office sitting at a 30% approval rating.

You want to know who ruined the American Dream, it was not the "left" as you put it. It was billionaires and people who wanted to pick and choose which Americans had access to "The American Dream" like Trump.

Don't take my word for it, listen to Warren Buffet, he was one of them and admits it: Trickle Down Economics NEVER worked here
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/04/warren-buffett-on-the-failure-of-trickle-down-economics.html

And don't tell me anything about "individual liberty". The republicans say they are for that until the people decide something that they are against like Legal Marijuana, Same Sex Marriage, etc. Then it's not about "states rights" or "individual liberty" anymore is it? It's about the big bad federal government bullying states through the DEA, Justice Department and Department of "Homeland Security". So in reality both parties suck and we need better leaders. Don't fall for the partisan nonsense. Both parties failed the country. Liberty is not "right wing" or "left wing", it just is. The guy in the office right now isn't a libertarian. He's a fascist, control freak.

America was never supposed to be just a collection of individuals full of themselves and their own self interests. And the party you support like it or not is just that.

America was about forming a MORE PERFECT U-N-I-O-N of all peoples regardless of race, class, gender, religion or national origin.

The two party system you support has failed.