Quote from: ConstantinGR on January 10, 2018, 12:21:24 PM

Quote from: sgaragagghu on January 10, 2018, 11:09:27 AM

Thus community is you and Demarsec.

Dev fee is a RADICAL change.
You can't just do it like it is a simply update.

We can argue about dev fees generally speaking but not to turn a ZERO devfees coin to a devfees coin without asking the community.
Hope you get my philosophical point.

You have some fundamental misunderstandings and arbitrary assumptions that are incorrect, thus you are confused.
Just because the coin is called Zero, it doesn't mean that everything about it is zero.
There are transaction fees which are close to zero but not zero.
Zero is a privacy coin, and it needs funds to survive and to expand.
An effort has been made to avoid fees, but the donations weren't enough and another way had to be implemented in order to meet the costs associated with the coin's development and promotion.
The fee is imposed on the miners, who already enjoy a very lucrative pay; Mining zero pays almost double compared to mining other coins. Miners are overly excited with the existence of zero, and they shouldn't be troubled with this fee. The fee is planned to be imposed by the pool, therefore it doesn't have any repercussion on the transaction fees.

I am not in Demarsac's team, I am just one of the many community people that reach Demarsac through the official communication channels and propose things / give feedback.
I am the one who gave the opportunity for Nvidia miners to make Optiminer work better in Windows, despite that my mod attracted so many miners that at the very end made myself earn less from mining.
I have also been giving technical advice to people since the community takeover.
I was promoted as an administrator of the telegram group, since the group creator verified that my contribution is positive.
I mention all the above about me to show you that I have earned my place in the community by actively contributing and not by destroying.
I don't agree with some things Demarsac does myself, but his continuing actions so far have saved the coin from a certain death, so I respect him. Therefore, whenever I need to say something, I won't do it in a public way and certainly not the catastrophic way you do.
Now if you want to be part of this community, you have to stop being sarcastic and to give constructive feedback, instead of hurting the coin and opening a second telegram group, that leads nowhere.
Even if you think you have a legitimate point of view, you will not achieve anything acting this way, unless of course you work for the competition, something that many people already suspect.
I am a romantic soul and I 'd like to believe that you are not hired by the competition, but I 'm afraid I will be proven naive...

Now if you don't like the way things work, your point of view is respected but you have no use here and you have to leave this community and let us bring the coin from Zero to Hero.

It's funny that you have to answer instead of Demarsec.
I gave my feedback and I got a ban from telegram. Thus I created one group without censorship just to talk with very few people that aren't blinded.
I still have 100 zeros because I still hope that you will do a poll about 1% fee to make this important decision fair and show that it is truly a community based coin.
Even if I'm sure that you would win that because there are too much blinded people here at least it would be a community approved decision.

Inb4 self moderating thread.