any exchange where i can use eth or ltc? not a fan of btc time + fees

can use ltc at cryptopia

You have to check, yesterday LTC trading was blocked on Cryptopia

ah true. both doge and ltc markets closed on cryptopia with no eta for reopening...

i transfered ltc to cryptopia, sold for btc and bought xspec, so that should still work.

btc transaction fees and times really are cumbersome.