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I'm still struggling to put together the goal of $1 per PHO with 1) the nature of the coin--it's inflationary unlike most crypto and has a limit of 90B coins. 2) the intent of the developers to have the coins be used as a crypto economy inside of video game universes, not to be traded on exchanges and make people who had nothing to do with the work that went into creating the coin rich. Volatile / high prices are counter to the intended use-case of the coin.

"I am a salesman. I learn people to have a bigger goal when they are going to sell a product. They must believe they sell 20 products and not only 4 ( target) When they are going for 4 sales they stop doing there best at 3 sales. When they go for 20 sales( even if it is way to high) they will sell much more then 4. They always sell between 12 and 15. Much better than 4 sales. I explained this before in the last messages on this forum. The management team goes for 1 euro. Be happy we are not happy with one cent. We keep going on until we reach 1 dollar.Every other person can be happy when we reach one cent.
Photon is still tradeable on c-patex. We can't wait until cryptopia is open and until we are on other exchanges.The exchanges do not accept us directly on an exchange. The most do it with voting and others ask 1 btc or lower to be listing. We do not have that money to do that but there are a lot of exchanges where we do not have to pay for"

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If we want to support PHO shouldn't we be supporting Blakezone games, since that's where they will first be used and then other game devs will see the value / utility and adopt it as well? This way the coins will find their natural price and it will be healthy for the ecosystem of the coins for use inside of games (not to mention you merge-mine while you game?? how cool is that??)

"The wonderful thing of blakezone is that it is a game created by bleudragon. It is a task to finish blakezone. blakecoin and photon is allready a ingame payment coin. We do not have to wait to be used in other games. it works. It works better as other coins because it is a blake256 coin. So we from the management team and the community are working to bring photon to the public. game developers must know photon before they can use photon. T The devs ( bleudragon and cinnamon) already make this coin a perfect coin to be used as an in-game coin. "

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If the goal is just "$1 coins" what happens when the goal is reached?

"then we create a new goal.It is always important to have a goal. We cant reach 1 dollar without doing nothing. So with the goal of 1 dollar we say to ourself we have to do a lot!"

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everyone sells and the price crashes and the original use-case is fucked??

"it will be difficult that the price falls. Look at c-patex. People do not dump. They Phodl. There are still buy orders of 1 and 2 satoshi and also buy order for ltc. Nobody in our community wants to dump ( maybe some people because they need money) because they trust in photon as in-game coin and of course in our community.

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Why is the goal of the community the price of the coin rather than promoting the use-case of the coin? Price should follow adoption, not be an end in and of itself.

"Our goal is to be a game payment coin. One dollar is our goal how many photons must be worth. We cant reach one dollar without being a ingame coin."

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I really am trying to give you guys the benefit of the doubt, but it's clear you are running a pump-and-dump scheme... :\

"I can understand you. It is not normally a community and a coin grows so fast as it did now. But everyone in our community is happy because some of them only bought 50 dollars and that is now 500-5000 dollar worth. These mean people are very happy that we invited them and that photon is going the good way. A lot of people have 10k+ profit and I know some that make between 75k and 100k. people already talked about making a donation wallet for the management team. Believe me that we can reach more when we make people happy then we are bad to people. So it will be a waste of money if we pump and dump because the community love our work and one day ( we do not have that as a goal) people are going to say thank you management team and they will donate us photon for the work we did.
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The only thing I sensed out of this ongoing discussions is just self-centered, and that is killing Photon. Otherwise, there's no reason why Cryptopia hasn't been notified to activate BTC trading since Photon reached 6 sat before LTC/DOGE halt.

"Photon is doing great! The community is still behind photon and that is one important thing we need. The management contacted a lot of exchanges but every exchange needs the time to accept a coin. Btc will only be activated on cryptopia when someone asks for it and a coin is 1 satoshi. We contacted cryptopia when we were 1 satoshi but 3 days later they were in crisis. so please understand why they did not do it already."

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OH GUSH, when is the power struggle going to stop and get along together? The primary reason for listing a coin/token on the exchange is to increase its value. Why was Photon even listed on Cryptopia if the goal was not to increase the value?

"One of the goals is to increase the value of photon. Only with this way people will know photon. Developers will trust photon more when we have a high value.The most people in crypto are doing things with coins to make money. We from the management team too, but we like we can do this also as a hobby. We can do our hobby, we can invest for the future ( our time) we have a wonderful place where we can talk and we can make money with this.For us, it is a win win win win situation.

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Good investors invest in crypto because they research the project and believe in its utility.

"People in our community invest in photon because of the trust in the community and also the story how this was started. I get people around the world that asking me about the conversation between bleudragon and me. They al see there are a few people that are doing a lot to make photon have success together with the community. That are reasons why they trust in the future of photon"

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Other investors invest in crypto because they want to get rich quick. To me, this new photon "community" seems like the latter.
"Of course we want to be rich because of photon. It is an easy way to get a lot of money"

No goal other than to increase the price of the coin so they can sell it for fiat. C'mon... it's a clear pump and dump strategy. $1 per coin is an arbitrary number and totally ignores the fact that the block reward goes up over time, and there will be 90 billion of these coins mined.
There is now 40 bil ripple. Is that a problem to be a big coin? No friend. It is all about the work we put in it"

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It's not a $1 coin, it's just not.

"You are correct. We are now even not 1 cent.But that is not a reason to not do everyhitng to reach one dollar."

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There are other Blake256 coins that are coded differently and will likely have much higher value per coin when there is adoption in video games.

"yes, they are all awesome and yes every blakecoin is good for in-game payment. Please read how back (page24 demminer) how we found photon. For us, photon is very special.

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But since Photon had a big price bump in early December and a HUGE price bump in late December... It's all "$1 PHOTON! WHEN MOON?!? LAMBO NOW?!?!?!" I see through it. I'm sorry.

"it will moon when the markets on cryptopia open. there are a lot of people that want to buy and want to Podl. There are some very big investors that are going to phold to. Why? because the story behind photon. There are people that even make lost with pumping photon so we will have earlier success. People will have lower trust if photon not grows in value. So let's look what is going to happen the next monts.

( there are always ( new) people that is going to talk about my english. Yes my english is not perfect and i am sorry for that)