Quote from: JSEcoin on January 12, 2018, 03:48:12 PM

RE: Kaspersky, this is the current email conversation with them, they are a difficult company to work with. We did get a whitelisting from Bitdefender recently so I'm hopeful eventually Kaspersky will come around to.

Hello,

1) Yes the mining process starts after the 15 second privacy notification has ended. So the user has enough time to opt-out. If you feel we need to increase this time period we could. The system is opt-out because it wouldnt work as an opt-in model for all the same reasons digital advertising doesnt work as opt-in. Our mining process isnt resource intensive and consumes less resources in testing than an auto-loading video advertisement. I feel that we arent doing anything worse than the big companies that are running digital ads. From a user experience perspective less resources are consumed and our system is less intrusive than advertising.

2) We could potentially increase the time the privacy notification displays or display it for a set amount of time and then shrink it down to a tiny icon in the bottom of the screen so users can always reach the opt-out link from the icon. This was something we discussed with webmasters in this thread and I think will be pushed out in the next update: https://jsecoin.com/forums/topic/privacy-notification/page/2/#post-4851

Would this help us reach compliance? If so we can bring this forward as a priority and get it rolled out in the next week.

3) The wording of the notification is also discussed earlier in that thread. We can not put too much text in there because it needs to display on all devices including older mobile devices which dont have much room but if you would prefer we could potentially add a smaller line underneath the main notification for desktop devices with something like Mathematical mining process will start consuming a small amount of resources starting in x seconds

The opt-in model we have a system in place where users can register at https://platform.jsecoin.com and do what we call self-mining. As previously discussed I dont see how it would be possible to run the publisher mining effectively as an opt-in model. I think trying to make the opt-out system work for publishers in a way that is transparent and ethical is better than having no system at at all. However I am biased because our business model is dependant on us getting this right.

Thank you for taking the time to look at our platform. I hope this answers your queries and goes some way to showing our commitment to working with your compliance team.

Kind regards,

James Bachini

On 26/12/2017 18:50, [email removed] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> we agree that any type of opt-out is better than completely hidden mining.
> But still, do you confirm that in jsecoin:
> 1) Mining process on publisher sites is started just after page load and without visitors consent
> 2) Visitor has about 15 seconds or so to notice banner and take action. If he doesnt, banner dissapears and mining continues unnoticeably
> 3) Displayed privacy notice does state that Website is monetized with cryptocurrency mining, but it doesnt mention that visitors hardware is utilized for this monetization right now?
>
> Have you considered opt-in model, rather than opt-out?
>
> Best Regards, NewVirus
>
> 39A/3 Leningradskoe Shosse, Moscow, 125212, Russia Tel./Fax: + 7 (495) 797 8700 http://www.kaspersky.com https://securelist.com
>
>
> From: [email removed]
> Sent: 22.12.2017 19:15:00
> To: [email removed]
> Subject: [Malicious link] Re: [Malicious link] RE: [Malicious link] Re: [Malicious link] RE: [Malicious link]Anti-virus Lab replies to your request [VD3][URL:3][LN:EN] [KLAN-7384385269] [KLAN-7390565559]
>
> Hello,
>
> load.jsecoin.com contains only our own miner script and it displays a
> privacy notice with network wide opt-out link. See screenshot attached.
>
> It is less CPU intensive than a video advertisement. We are operating
> fully transparently with our publishers and their visitors.
>
> We do not offer an option for publishers to hide the privacy notice and
> also have checks in place to make sure publishers arent running the
> code in an iframe to hide the notice.
>
> I know cryptocurrency mining has a bad reputation but we believe that
> our system offers a real alternative for intrusive advertising with less
> disturbance to the end user. We are doing everything we can to operate
> in an ethical and transparent manner.
>
> If you feel that our platform is still non-compliant with your standards
> please advise on how we can make this work to meet with your approval?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> James

Another example of why JSEcoin will succeed, full transparency between founder and end user.

Keep it up James!