Quote from: shield132 on January 14, 2018, 09:57:37 PM

Quote from: hatshepsut93 on January 14, 2018, 08:22:06 PM

Sure, it's bad that fees are high, but high fees are not going to kill Bitcoin, because they are driven by open market, they are not installed by one side only like it happens in some centralized systems.
But centralization can kill Bitcoin, you can't undo the damage of big blocks if the blockchain became bloated past certain point.

Of courde high fees can't kill bitcoin, it even didn't affect it overally but don't you hear words from people who says so high fees make it useless to make transaction? Bitcoin is decentralyzed for me, safest option and great currency. These high fees does shit job, I can't receive transaction quickly without ultra high fees. And yes, some people prefer high fees and spammed network because they use it for theirself. Block size must be increased and I think currently even 4MB will be absolutely enough.

Current maximum block size 4MB and it's possible to see 4MB blocks if everyone adopt SegWit since SegWit has lower weight size and now we use maximum block weight instead maximum block size.

Quote from: Wind_FURY on January 15, 2018, 05:29:06 AM

Quote from: ETFbitcoin on January 14, 2018, 07:39:59 PM

Even though i know the advantages of SegWit and LN, don't we need to increase block weight/size since i think current block weight/size won't be enough if more people adopt/use Bitcoin & some people might think LN isn't really useful since they still need to pay big fees to open/close LN channel?
I know raising maximum block size/weight is risking decentralization, but i think it won't be hurt to increase it not too much as long as there's data/consensus which says most nodes still can run even after raising maximum block size/weight?

What do you think? Also, CMIIW.

You "think" it would not hurt to increase it. Ok, I want achow or someone who has a deeper understanding of the block sizes and block propagation to make a comment on OP's "thinks it would not hurt to increase the block size".

OP, then why are the Core developers unwilling to do it? There has to be a good technical reason, correct?

What i mean is "it won't be hurt to raise maximum block weight if there's detailed research if we raise maximum block weight".

Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 15, 2018, 12:54:52 PM

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"Bitcoin needs validation performance increases first so the network can handle it"

This is exactly what i meant