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@generalizethis

agree to disagree.

So you don't think developers should offer proof they can deliver on their promises?

Sorry, I meant on the grammar lesson haha.

The developers should offer proof only through open source release of the technology. I believe Monero should have done the same before collecting millions of dollars for Kovri.

Kovri is open source and existed before Monero.

So you agree that spectre should provide proof they solved anonymous staking?

Also, so you disagree that we should use common usage as the deciding factor on how we interpret words? I'm just discussing day-to-day usage and disregarding special circumstances such as an academic or poet coining a new term or a new use for existing terms.

Yes, but Kovri is not actually implemented.

I am not having the grammar argument. I am not arguing that my BA and Law Degree weren't my worst investment either. You can have the grammar argument title too. I still have my massive bag of both Monero and Spectre. One of which has fast transactions, stakes out a nice pay daily and doesn't have even a fraction of the fee.

If you don't want to argue word usage that's fine, but don't write, "agree to disagree" and expect me to disregard an inane argument. Just wanted clarification that that was the argument you were standing your ground at.

As far as Kovri goes, the code is being developed on GitHub, so anyone can peruse it and look to see if it is as it should be. Funding work before there is a finished product is common and no one funding the work was under any impression that that wasn't the case.

Nice side stepping, but let's repeat the question, and just "yes" or "no." No side stepping or getting frustrated with how language works or trying to focus attention on a project outside the scope of this thread.

Do you think spectre coin should make available how they plan to make anonyous staking work?

My point in all of this has been that usually when a project fails at providing proof, it's because it is vaporware and there is no proof. If you want to invest on hope, that's fine--but don't pretend it's reasonable for others to do the same.

No, because nothing matters until it has been released and is running. Like I said, its backed merely through the world of development. But based on those facts, don't tell me that Monero has a superior approach by introducing Kovri without releasing wallet implementation.

"No..." so you're a moron--that's all i was trying to figure out

TX and IP data are two different things so what difference does it make to someone where using Monero is legal as to whether kovri is implemented at all? Monero works as advertised--it hides TX data. Hiding IP data on;ly matters if you are living inside a country where using that particular crypto is illegal.

I just want to know how anonymous staking is achieved, shouldn't be that big a deal. Say you don't know and go about your day. Not sure why we have to circle around it and pretend that it doesn't matter or use faulty compaison that disregard how cryptocurrencies achieve anonymity.

Well, you can't spell Monero without m-o-r-o-n either. Wink

Locking that comment in for when spectre fails to deliver--i suggest you get a new username now as this one will lose all credibility.

No, I'll keep the comment so the public can see your fuelled anger you edited out of embarrassment. Like you say 'facts over fud.' Time will tell. Ill be holding my massive bags of Both Monero and Spectrecoin either way.

Edited out of embarrassment? I edit a lot after I post--i'm a perfectionist. I thought explaining why you are a moron is better than just calling you a moron--doesn't change that I feel you are a moron and definatley not ashamed of calling you a moron. As much of my time as you've wasted, I'm surprised I didn't call you worse and earlier. My only comfort is that you will likely lose a lot of money when the devs dump their shitcoin.

Prediction for spectre: date assigned for anonymous staking implementation, pump, date comes with delay or complete disappearance of the spectre devs. You hodling a bag of nothing and wishing you had listened to me instead of wasting my time.

Dude, instead of acting as if you all know it, why even bother spamming this post and just let it go? Please let's have a debate in a civilized manner instead of saying things as "stfu" and "moron" to people here and laughing on their grammer, that means you are either immature or not open for debate but merely here to confim what you already seem to regard as being the ultimate truth.

Instead of arguing without any sense, you could have gotten an answer from the dev team, try @jbg on spectreproject.slack.com, who will provide you with an answer in a matter of minutes as the devs are very active and open for answering questions. I know many, many coins are being shilled without any underlying tech and many promises are being made in this cryptomarket, but what you are doing now is discussing matters with a person who cannot provide you with an answer, which does not get you anywhere but confirm your thoughts you already seem to have. It does not make any sense.

That being said, it is not strange that new upcoming tech is not revealed in great detail. Why should they? Xspec has a very strong community of people who really believe in the coin and its underlying tech. If we would be your regular pump and dump coin, you would have seen 1000's of posts everywhere claiming we have the new next bext greatest thing ever (remember "Wraith"?). That is not happening here. In addition, I invite you to take a look at the 3 or 6 monthly chart. Do you see any pattern here of a pump and dump coin? The coin has been and is growing slowly but steadily. I invite you to join our slack, you will see a great community which is happily going to provide you with any questions you may have. If you are not interested, that would be your right of course, but please let's debate decently. Peace!