Quote from: r3wt on July 28, 2013, 11:38:24 PM

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Quote from: r3wt on July 28, 2013, 11:16:56 PM

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You paid him to create a coin. Coin needed a stable network for launch, He made that happen too. Did he deliver your coin? Yes? No scam here.

In his own words:

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you said you wanted no premine, you never said i couldn't premine it

He admits he was told no premine AND intentionally 'misinterprets' it and performs his own premine.

He openly admits he accepted this job for .4BTC, then claims it wasn't worth it so he premined. Why not negotiate a better fee?

I'm sorry, but this guy comes across as a liar, a thief as well as a scammer.

its easy to cherry pick little parts of my message. one blaring omission from your less than word for word quote of my statement was that i used the premine to get some people to help me. i'm not gonna repeat my self any longer. the mods have access to the pm's, i'll let them settle it. enjoy life with your head up the ass of GasCoin and iGotSpots.

Although I don't think you did it intentionally, if he asked for no premine, you shouldn't have done premine. Bounties and other things are his part to worry about as it is his coin.

How I see it - he asked for no premine - you agreed and received money - then you premined it (whatever intentions)
From that - thing is that it was his coin, you shouldn't have made decision to premine it to get additiona support for coin, it is his decision if he wants additional help or how he wants to pay for it.

Although yes maybe your intentions were good, but technically - you agreed on specific job, received money but did different job (again whatever reasons)

I don't know you, so I will not make assumptions, but this specific thing you did was wrong. We all do wrong sometimes, and often with good intentions, it still doesn't make it right. It was his coin so you should have asked him how he wants to handle things like help and premine.

ok, i was wrong to have done it without asking you're right. i just didn't want to admit that i would need some help getting the network ready. its also why i was late. we wanted the hashrate to be high enough to keep the coin from getting destroyed on launch. i still don't think it makes me a scammer for doing that though. i see where i was wrong, i just didn't want to admit it before, but to call me a scammer after i slaved all weekend to meet the deadline.

my whole issue was the way he turned on me and trashed me in the thread. thats very unproffesional.

To sum up:
You did wrong by doing wrong
He did wrong by reacting too badly

So it is basically for everybody to decide by themselves how they feel about it. This disagreament does not proove anyone being scammer, and so as this is thread for moderators to decide and take people votes:

My vote: r3wt is not scammer, but he should somehow make it up for slipping and doing wrong thing