Quote from: MPOE-PR on July 28, 2013, 11:44:12 PM

Pretty funny shit.

It sure would be funny if it weren't for the fact...

Quote from: Inaba on July 17, 2013, 05:24:23 PM

The statement was that we did not refund preorders. We did. We are no longer taking pre-orders and we are not refunding orders that are currently in the queue, that's correct.

It was stated multiple times that all sales are final when you ordered. What part of that were you unable to understand? We can't be responsible for your lack of reading comprehension or ability to understand simple English sentences. Sorry for your reading disability, perhaps next time you should get someone to explain what terms and conditions mean to you before placing and order. Now put on your big boy pants and accept responsibility for your actions instead of whining to me why you are unable to function in normal society and you should be a special case.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139375.msg1428421#msg1428421

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[Archive] BFL trolling museum

December 31, 2012, 07:34:42 PM #1487

I find it interesting that the BFL clown crew is starting to contradict its collective self in an attempt find something, anything to complain about.

Can one of you super intelligent folk explain to me how the BFL forums can be censored and all posts critical of BFL are being deleted while at the same time being full of people complaining and asking for refunds? It would seem to me that those two states of being are mutually exclusive, but somehow, through the magic of the CreativeX/Frizz/PuertoLibre stupidity filter, those states can exist simultaneously on the BFL forums.

Quote from: Inaba on April 21, 2013, 04:04:05 AM

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I guess no one seems to wonder how a company can issue refunds of thousands of dollars of pre-order merchandise and Paypal never balks at it?

See, Yajaira D Guevara, this is why you're so pathetic. You make statements like this. Who says we issue refunds of thousands of dollars? Your warped little mind? We get very little refund requests in the grand scheme of things. I know you desperately want it to be true that people are asking for refunds in droves, but it's simply not the case. This is why I know a large majority of the whiny brats that cry about BFL still maintain their pre-orders. Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if you had a stealth order yourself, just like Frizz, but until there's evidence of that, I'll give you props for being one of the few trolls who actually doesn't have a pre-order.

You just go on advocating fraud there, Yajaira. You are a real stand up guy! Not only a liar, but a thief and fraudster as well, GG!

Special note in re. the above: Note, Josh is speaking in the capacity of BFL representing facts, albeit as he see it, and not as his personal opinion.

The following negates what I penned in the OP about moneys used for the development of BF Labs Inc.'s product line.

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Your statement that "You guys presold the units and yet are holding on to this" is utter garbage. Do you have proof, or hell, even any EVIDENCE of this? No? Why not? Because it's idiotic, that's why. This whole question has been answered, ad naseum, on the forum. You failed to do you due diligence and now you're flailing around trying to justify your stupid questions.

That's right, you have no power to compel BFL to open their books. A court of law and government agency will laugh in your face when you try to get them to compel BFL to open the books. Here's the way that conversation will go:

Charles: There's this company, Butterfly Labs, that has taken preorders for a product and hasn't shipped mine yet. I want you to force them to publicly post an audit of their books.
Court: On what grounds do you request we compel an audit?
Charles: I think they are using preorder funds to develop their product.
Court: What evidence do you have for this?
Charles: Well, I don't have any evidence.
Court: So why do you think they are doing this, have they said they were? When did you make your preorder?
Charles: No, they said they wern't doing it. I made a preorder in January. I think they are a scam and a ponzi scheme.
Court: I see... So you ordered in January, when did you ask for a refund?
Charles: I've haven't asked for a refund.
Court: So, you think they are a scam, but you haven't requested a refund? Why not? Has anyone else requested a refund?
Charles: Well, I don't really have a good answer as to why I haven't requested a refund. Yes, other people have requested refunds.
Court: How many refunds were requested? How many were denied?
Charles: Well, I'm sure lots were requested. I haven't heard of any being denied.
Court: So... people have requested refunds and been given them. You have an order with the company and you haven't canceled it and requested a refund. You say they are scam, but have no evidence, no one has ever been denied a refund and they are a privately held company. Is that correct?
Charles: Well, yes, basically. But... they haven't shipped my order yet!
Court: Baliff, please escort this man off the premises. If he resists, I recommend holding him for psychiatric evaluation.

I'd wager that's a fairly accurate representation of what a court of law would say.

Hey, Joshy Boy! Allow me, The Grand Monumental Asshole at Large (GMAL for short) to present that proof once again that BFL has so conveniently removed from their website: http://web.archive.org/web/20110923170442/http://butterflylabs.com/pre-order-form/

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Pre-order funds are not held in escrow so if you aren't comfortable with our using your payment to prepare your product, you may order post production units at the standard price of $599 when they become available.

The question no longer looks idiotic now, does it Josh?

Simple question, Josh: Are you able to read the above or are a couple testicles blocking your view?