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I cannot use telegram.

Or any other IM style system that forces the use of websockets. This is true for any other corporate user who is behind a proxy like Squid.

Thanks anyway,

#crysx

I suppose all the main announcements take place here in the thread. Im looking forward to join ICO at the main event.

What about using telegram? You probably could try to use it with VPN or with PC application, cant you? Im not familiar with such restrictions honestly. Cannot suggest you anything useful, unfortunately Embarrassed

That's fine, and I appreciate you trying to help.

Telegram, Discord - almost everything these days except Skype (which works perfectly through a proxy) - uses websockets which is not supported by most corporate proxy systems, because most of them are based on, if not are, squid.

No issue though, as the limiting factor of this means that developers that adhere to ONLY this way of communication, actually cut out a HUGE percentage of those that CAN actually make a massive difference in the market and the coin itself. Not all users that can buy/sell/trade or develop are home users you know Wink

#crysx

Yep! Understand! The most popular platforms for marketing are telegram, Facebook, slack. Rarely discord, or other services. But botcointalk as well. This is the main platform actually for ICOs probably. Some projects pay not enough attention to the forum, nevertheless, 99.99% examine btt for sure.

Ah! Using of crypto media portals is also widely spread. But I suppose for a little (or not) fee. Anyway its persistent. Such listings or just media take money for every action including up to the top, increase of rating, writing and placing the topics. Bitcointalk is free, moreover, all the users can write here and nobody can edit or delete your messages (despite self-moderated topics).

About a HUGE percentage.. Hm, maybe you are right. Im not sure though, because investors who are eager to invest will definitely find an ability to avoid any proxy system

There are no such things as 'investors' here.

Not unless they are buying into the companies that run these ICO's, if there are businesses or companies in the first place. That is the ONE biggest issue this Crypto industry has, and that is the twisting of the words that are used. These are not 'investors', these are 'gamblers', nothing less. Buying digital coins for the 'hope' that they will go up in value is simply gambling. Buying into a company that has has you with vested interest in the success of the company, is 'investment'.

I come from a corporate background spanning more than 30years, which is why I left that bumhole style of business Wink

It is very hard and cutthroat, but also because YOU as a user (I was one of the Admin) cannot change anything, so any issues that arise from accessibility in the network in a job that spans almost 8-10hours of your day, will mean you miss out on a lot, especially if trading.

So accessibility is a MAJOR part of all of this. Allow accessibility to the main core of the 'project', and you will see a number of newcomers that did not have the chance prior, because the majority of their day is spent in corporate networks. Thsi is why my company is focused more on that side, than 'just' the home user. That is where real money is as well as the home user.

Anyway, you make some good points, but I think if you want success more than a few hundred BTC here and there, you need to 'expose' yourself to as many as you can.

#crysx

You are totally right! Accessibility must be considered as a main thing, especially during ICO, when at least ability to buy coins (with fully working service that includes investing, landing, depositing etc) should take place. What I think about PagareX and what actually makes me calm is that ICO is not a huge part of the project. They focused on mining of the coin and I suppose do not pay appropriate attention to this. But its a fault for sure.

Still believing that all bugs will be fixed quite soon.