Quote from: SebastianJu on July 30, 2013, 03:08:10 PM

Quote from: Wayne_Chang on July 30, 2013, 02:58:24 PM

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Quote from: Wayne_Chang on July 30, 2013, 08:02:50 AM

This thread shows people's greedy and selfish clearly.

How is it selfish to ask a vendor to hold up the terms of the deal that they themselves specified?

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Do you really think Avalon team is holding back the chips?

Either through incompetence or malice, yes. It doesn't make any sense for TSMC to do small batches of chips. There is quite a bit of setup time that goes in to producing a run of ASIC chips, so it is in their best interest to produce as many as time allows after setting up all the equipment. So for them to only have 10,000 or 20,000 chips at once is very suspicious to me.

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As I know the capacity of TSMC is very limited. Maybe the delay of chips are caused by TSMC or assembly factory.

How do you "know" this?

As you guys can assume Bitsyncom is holding back the chip shipment, why I cannot assume there is no chip available?
I am not questioning on TSMC is delaying the chip. I am questioning did Avalon really passed the chips order to TSMC on time just like they said.

Why should avalon wait 5 weeks and then change all chip orders to ordered at once? And all following batches were changed to ordered very fast too then. I think "Chips ordered" is very clear in this context. And, like i wrote, there are already 10th ot thousands of chips delivered.

Can I say you guys too naive?
See what they did on refund customers. Many customers status changed to "Refunded" 1 day but with no money received. Then these status changed to "processing refund".
Till now you still believe in them? Come on, you should pray your can receive your chips finally instead of eaten by them.
They said batch#2 shipment would be finished within June. Actually many of batch#2 customers received their miners in July.
They said batch#3 will be shipped within 2 weeks. Now we are in 3rd week and most of batch#3 customers not received their miners yet.
If you still believe in them, you must have really good faith on them.
By the way, looks only 1 customer of batch#3 received his refund till now. How many days passed since Avalon said they accept refund request?