Quote from: dzimbeck on January 19, 2018, 06:52:00 AM

Quote from: Cryptodingdong on January 18, 2018, 08:00:28 PM

Quote from: dzimbeck on January 14, 2018, 12:50:27 AM

Funds did come in to Bitbay we have had volume over 40 million daily and have broken all of our records including in satoshis. You have to realize that 150 Billion comes in proportion to the project. If Bitcoin grows 10% it gains billions on "paper". If BitBay grows 10% it gets another 30 million or so on paper.

As for timeline of course, we work very hard and have had a reputation to deliver on features. I think the updated roadmap was recently released.

Thank you Mr. Zimbeck for all you work and answers! If I seem impatient, its not because I am impatient for returns, these will come and I dont worry. Even with us getting our legs lobbed off, I know it will be ok. My concern is simply someone else beating us to market, even with an inferior product, but flashy marketing. I know you work extremely hard! I dont not question that at all. But man I've seen many brilliant ideas get lost... The most important thing for me - which I consider part of the marketing - is to get the bay from desk-top, to interactive.

Example and this is a real example, not hypothetical - I'm a tech idiot, hence my name. I go to the website, and I want to sell a Mattias Heinicke 1923 Bohemian violin. I mean this thing is cherry, 99-98% condition, custom built for my great grandfather. Its 2 steps down from a Stratovarius. My grandmother really needs the money, and I'm thinking what better place to sell internationally. Well, I go to the bitbay website, and nowhere do I see where to actually list my item. So I call my multi-millionaire friend, he says I have to download the Client. Now if I didnt have my friend, I would have left. The front page should say in huge letters: DOWNLOAD THE CLIENT TO USE THE BUY/SELL FUNCTION". Thats not on there, marketing problem.

So I try to download it, I get all sorts of errors, saying I have to disable this and that before it can install. I dont know how to do all that, I'm an old HVAC business man, but a tech ding-dong. So I've never been able to download it, and now I gotta find a different way to sell the violin. So people have to go through alot of trouble to use the feature that makes Bitbay, Bitbay. Huge marketing problem, I'd say Achilles heel. You know many others are also working on similar products, and they may have deeper pockets. I know its a huge step and I know you want to do it, but if you can make the marketplace interactive like ebay, then 10,000 sats is a blip on the screen.

Cheers my friend!

Well first of all if you had any problems installing and had to disable antivirus or something blocking it that is typical. The software was made with the consideration of your security, privacy, anonymity, resistances to hacks, etc.

Unfortunately antivirus software tends to block peer to peer software and python unjustly. I don't actually use them for that any many other reasons as they don't seem to prevent any security holes and slow down the system and send private data to 3rd parties.

With that said, the reason I didn't start with a web app is because the blockchain and all the sysetms this runs to literally run where this thing would still work in an apocalypse is not conducive to web apps.

Web has much lower security in general. However, I have long known that people will sacrifice some security for utility and thus indeed Bitbay should be something anyone can host a webpage and see the listings. To bridge both systems is unorthodox and a pretty big coding task. I've been trying to get it to that level as it would indeed be the first of it's kind. We have new people looking at breaking it into sections and getting that done. The security model is very different. We also have taken a much more aggressive stance in marketing as well lately.

Also you must realize there is a liability factor. Peer to peer systems are superior in this regard because users are responsible for their own actions. In the case of unbreakable peer to peer contracts there is a mild conflict of interest if this thing isn't engineered so that anyone can host it and that users security is all on the front end.

It can look the way you describe but it's not an overnight process.

Also the word "FUD" means "Fear, uncertainty, doubt". It can at times apply to a person who tries to attack a project or propagandize it for ulterior motives. It can also mean that something is unjustly negatively hyped, that sort of thing.

Also Greek translations... sure. I'm not the one who does the recruiting. Simply ask Aletha on Slack or perhaps they can contact you here if they still need someone.

Fascinating! sure looks as if you are approaching everything holisticly and methodicaly. And this is why I'm all into Bitbay. I'll go look up Slack, I guess there is a Bitbay thread there? Let me see if you guys still need a Hellene Cool

Thanks again friend

Cheers!