Quote from: REAL_MORPHEUS on January 20, 2018, 01:37:07 AM

Need to change the thread title to Nebulous/Obelisk donations only and you get a doorstop in return. A t-shirt if you're lucky Wink

Well, on my 'dubious' 5 Sia Obelisk sc-1 units' I did get 5 1/2 coupons and did get for them ONE 2nd batch? (800 bucks after coupon) unit for free...

so I suppose there are others on here that may have done the same in some manner...but it is rather a drastic way to get a decred miner for my efforts...

Again, I expect a 2nd batch siacoin miner from Bitmain with less watts and a Bitmain decred miner before the obelisk units of any ASIC flavor ship

Being Bitmain and sensing weakness (no fork) they will go for the kill and, IMHO, try to acquire 90% of the sia unts on any sia decentralized storage feature

it is how they roll (bitmain that is) as to the decred miners..I've heard it is not much of a tweak to do this ..thus I'd expect those units before

the 2nd batch of sia coin obelisk 1st ship units...we will see....but posting my views on here...I think this likely.

Quote from: cuteman on May 12, 2018, 01:04:31 PM

Quote from: Searing on May 12, 2018, 04:00:35 AM

anyway, looking like ASIC units of ANY FLAVOR are gonna be under water in a couple months anyway.....not looking good is an understatment..

But what if crypto prices will irncrease in prices? Won't the same situation happen as was last year, when ASIC miners were bringing good return.

This is true..but that is the classic problem on pre-orders of equipment....IF the price pumps...you have no need to get equipment..you can ride the crypto wave

without risk and hold coin...the only way you get equipment is IF you can get the equipment before everyone else (1st in line on 1st batch of new asic product)

or you say 'attic mine' some stuff out of the attic and sell it on ebay and maybe buy equipment that way...since Fall of 2017 it has made NO SENSE to pay for

equipment with crypto mined or hoarded....especially with BTC say going up 12x and such...so the choices with equip is

1) do better than roi or if you just got your crypto and held

2) break even on equip vs crypto used

3) lose crypto if no price pump

with places like bitmain selling their stuff in mass quantities (25k or above batches) and their prices (reflecting price) or if price really pumps (like summer of 2017)

they claim firmware update on your equip already owned and to be shipped (had invoice) and mine it for 6 weeks making LTC diff go up 30% ..then ship NOT with

'supposed' JUNE 2018 firmware upgrade but the same JANUARY 2018 firmware as the stuff gotten previously..and of course

4) the pre-order 3 months or more all equip ASIC makers due and watch the price of crypto paid go up 3x to 8x by the time you get it (2017)

no angle you can play that works in your favor

THE ONLY ANGLE YOU HAVE NOW IS IF THE PRICE PUMPS OF YOU CRYPTO OF CHOICE AND ASIC FLAVOR OF CHOICE DEVICE ARRIVING 3-6 MONTHS IN THE FUTURE

So, if you are NOW (these days 2018) counting on a price pump....that all can be changed on a whim (weekly price, amount of units, take away units to mine your

self, etc)

Again, no legit firm angle you can take ...too many variables as we are seeing on our 1-year obelisk sc1 units...

(ah, 2017 when I had so much cash flowing in monthly, I really needed the equip deduction of 5 units as a hedge....those were the days.....damn!)

Anyway, IMHO, 2018 keep the asic coin and hold (unless you can get a free decred miner for a mess of dubious obelisks sc-1 coupons (5 in my case)

less angst then getting equip, less risk, probably more coin in the long run.....again with bitmain being a monopoly and changing price weekly and amount of units

of even getting a unit (ie shipping them out like toasters) and pre-orders taking to long and also the possible price pump you MIGHT see in your choice of crypto

in the 3 months till you got your pre-order miners (making it 3x as expensive maybe on a crypto price pump of 3x)

No angle I can see anymore ...maybe used asic equipment..maybe masternodes or pos coins that stake like mining....no angles I feel safe with at this point in time.