Quote from: MoonShadow on June 26, 2011, 01:53:30 PM

Quote from: hunk on June 26, 2011, 11:35:49 AM

Quote from: MoonShadow on June 26, 2011, 06:38:09 AM

And if climate change is true, and Greece becomes much hotter, what do you think happens to the agricultural base of Greece? Again, economic crisis is the near term problem. If people in Greece can't grow enough food for their populations due to the heat, the increases in viable farmlands in Siberia and Canada's Northern Territories would more than compensate, but if the Greeks can't afford to trade internationally, they starve.

A valid point,but most of our agricultural products get traded to other EU countries,and for instance we end up buying olive oil from other countries anyway.
That is of course the way the market works.But you'd be hard-pressed to find someone that actually buys olive oil from the store,and not from some "family member" in the village.
So if we end up being unable to trade food,we will turn to our "families" to get some of the food they have stored away.
And maybe get to teach a 75 year old woman how to use bitcoins in the process.

My point was, that if the climate change crazies are right about their worst case predictions, then Greece will have a much hotter & dryer climate, and thus the ag base will not be able to grow as much, limiting the local population in a future with limited international trade. Your local connections are great, but it's actually impossible for all Greeks to be able to find local food sources in an economic crisis.

I'm pretty sure that it would be easier to get local food sources in a time of crisis...I'm not saying it would be affordable,but if a crisis occurred and people were starving,then the ones with even a limited food supply would be the ones in power.They would,in theory,exploit your hunger to get rich.And it has actually happened before.People giving up their properties for a decent meal.

As for the climate,I'm pretty sure,that unless we get over 50C in the summer and below -10C in the winter we'll be alright.
If I remember correctly olive trees are pretty resiliant to weather.