Quote from: AgentME on August 07, 2013, 01:08:59 AM

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 06, 2013, 10:07:54 PM

Quote from: Rampion on August 06, 2013, 09:57:58 PM

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LOL at the bolded part, how is that "when you square a number it still carries the same properties, nothing is lost"? Care to explain that?

From a math point of view that's BS. Two quick examples:

3 is a Fibonacci number; 9 is NOT
3 is a prime number; 9 is NOT

Or maybe we just digressed from math to mysticism? What kind of mysticism? Does the bible says "when you square a number it still carries the same properties, nothing is lost"?

There is some reality behind mysticism but what I'm talking about is hard science - but most don't get it cause you don't start exploring it until you get to classes like Quantum Physics which I never needed - although I did take other lower (200 and 300 level) physics classes.

It gets much more complex than I can explain. I never got farther than calculus but what I'm referring to is true - you're comparing these numbers on the surface. For example it's like saying violet is not red and ignoring all the inherent properties inside that higher and much hotter frequency (violet - the hottest stars are violet not red, yet there is red inside of their physical properties which you cannot easily observe).

With numbers it's much more complex and like I said it gets into really complex Quantum Physics theories. I've read some papers on these theories and I only understand some parts. Enough to comprehend numbers matter more than most people could possibly imagine.

If you're good at math and curious about just how deep simple numbers go just read up on something like the ABC Conjecture. You'd think the simple Linear Algebra equation a + b = c is very straight forward - exactly as you tried to explain. Spend just an hour reading on how deep that goes and how much physics is actually involved and number properties which the human eye cannot see nor fathom and you'll get an idea what I'm referring to.

Coincidentally The ABC Conjecture was just supposedly solved and some think the Genius behind it was non other than Satoshi. So I'm surprised you Bitcoin experts (lecturing me) don't know more about what I've been saying. His (supposedly Satoshi) solution is so complex that not even teams of PhD mathematicians are able to figure out how he did it or what any of it means.

But researching it for yourself (if you took at least stats and calculus) will give you a much deeper meaning in the infinite nature of numbers and how they do carry their properties as you square them, multiply them etc. There are changes within that new number but the fundamental properties of say 7 or 3, they're still existent and functioning in the new number.

Numbers carry real physical properties (as real as gravity) which is something most people don't understand which is why I tried hard to use the "right" numbers.

What sorts of physical properties do numbers have? Do they have mass?

(Also, the theory that Satoshi is the guy who solved the ABC conjecture is just based on the fact they both published their papers online instead of through academic channels. That's it. Not even any links to the cypherpunks. There are tons of better candidates.)

I read an article on why Shinichi was thought to be Satoshi and there were more reasons stated other than their extreme shy nature and tendency to upset the whole peer community by publishing your proof online rusher than proper academic channels, which by itself is a pretty big coincidence as nobody in the math world would do something like that and many were upset and some mathematicians even refused to read his proof because he dumped the proof online without a single word.....kinda like Satoshi.

I don't remember the other reasons but they were all coincidental - like the timeline of Bitcoin, the long hour necessary to code and do the mathematical proofs for Bitcoin which few could do and Shinichi was known for working very fast and very long hours, although Bitcoin could have been done by a team and gotten the same results.

All I'm saying with Shinichi is that if these people harping on me telling me I didn't do any research didn't at least read up on the ABC Conjecture to understand the massive importance of numbers then that means they didn't so much research at all and simply know these things about bitcoin via chat like this and have probably been here 1 year or more. I've been here 3 months.