Quote from: amGigolo on January 25, 2018, 12:41:45 AM

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Quote from: amGigolo on January 24, 2018, 09:21:22 PM

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Quote from: amGigolo on January 24, 2018, 05:47:57 AM

perfect a NEW thread that is self moderated so everything will look perfect ins b3 / KB3 land...

Really guys? if you do not want ppl screaming scam all the time, don't do things like this and toss up even more RED flags

You are assuming that the people who are working on the coin now are the same people who promoted the coin previously. I am here to tell you that they aren't. This isn't a red flag. This is us establishing a solid base that we can build from.

Please remember there were quite a few posts on the old thread that the regular moderator needed to remove.

And please know, we are working very hard on establishing a culture in discord where people are able to speak like adults, and talk through their concerns. We are well aware that wasn't the discord culture of the past, but we are changing it daily. We are in the midst of huge restructuring. While not everything will be figured out tomorrow... give us a few weeks.

In other words, to those of you who have been dissatisfied with this coin in the past, please take a deep breath, and a dose of patience. Be willing to open your eyes to the chance that things aren't necessarily what they seemed in the past, nor will be what you thought they would be moving forward. Be willing to be surprised. We think you will be. Otherwise we wouldn't be here either.

we have been giving you guys weeks and weeks .... all we get is same response, more time, more patience... in the meantime investors who trusted in b3 were then forced into KB3 ....

ppl who bought in at 1-2 Sats are treated as filth cause they were forced into KB3 that basically made the b3 they bought lose over a 3rd + in Value, not BECAUSE of Free market but by the dev team doing it.

you guys spit in the face of investors because they bought in at 1 Sat thinking "hey this is a good "investment" at 1 it can't go any lower and i can sit on this till it hits 2 , 3 or 4 Sats."

traders and investors are in coins for the returns, but you guys act as they are always in the wrong when they wonder where their investment has gone.

changing to b3 to KB3 was just that a spit in the face to investors. not everyone is a Long term investors... no one wanted rich or lambos, they just wanted a return on their investment, quit treating them as they are the bad guys here.

day traders are who will raise the price but you guys have done nothing but shown that you do not care about them, every decision you guys have made since thanksgiving has been a disaster because of Poor timing

- the nodes
- cryptopia delisting
- the "rebranded" site
- the move to Kb3

and we still have yobit, coinmarkets exchange issues.

seems everything is rushed or pushed thru and we all suffer. Please try and understand others point of view on this as well. you want us to be patient and for 2 months we have and seen a devaluation of our investment, again not at the hands of the Market but by the team messing around with things and NOT allowing the market to decide

Well your frustration is understandable and I personally went through this when I thought the same and then discovered that there was this coinsmarkets exchange that had 9 digits and traded as low as 0.1 sat per coin. If you see the december trades in coinexchange for b3 you will see that at good days 1 BTC worth was traded. As the coin had a market cap at 1 sat of 6200 BTC a trade volume of 1 BTC per day basically means that it is dead and if you want to sell you might need months if you ever can sell. The decision to switch to kB3 was taken before the release of the 3.1.1.1 wallet which has been released in mid-december. Coinexchange had halted withdrawals and deposits before that because the old wallet had issues with forking chains. With the wallet fix exchanges were supposed to switch to kB3. That was done by coinsmarkets right away but for some reason coinexchange took a long time to update and decided to have parallel markets for b3 and kb3. I don't know if there was an agreement with the former team about it, however coinsexchange had announced bringing both markets up, then only put the B3 market live and waited weeks before putting the kB3 market online, and they did that at the worst possible time.

Now as of the value of the kB3 coin dropping, I believe that it is planned manipulation of some whales. Although the 1 sat wall for B3 was almost gone the price of KB3 almost immediately dropped below 1000 sats and further down. If you count the worth of all sell orders right now below 900 sats you will find that it is merely worth less than 15btc. That is nothing. At previous volume that should be wiped out in a few hours if people kept the faith in the coin.

Now 1000 B3 is 1/620 million of the supply, that is the same as for 1 kB3. If a company decides to make a 1000:1 reverse split of their shares they would not lose value. Yes there are people who averaged below 1000 sat per kB3 and can afford to sell cheap, but why would you sell cheap if you know that there is demand and the coin price is moving upwards and not downwards? You do that to make people sell cheap and buy low, you probably have sold at 1 sat before that planning in advance to put negative pressure on the coin. Then you can slowly buy double or triple the amount you had before. That is the only explanation I have for that drop. Also, whenever the coin price starts to go up someone puts a sell wall worth 0.5-0.6 BTC immediately well below the price it had reached to keep it from going up. If you observe the market you will clearly see that.

Some whale / whales want you to sell cheap and some people have nothing to do but to call the coin a scam. I'm just a small investor here and I believe in this coin. I don't know if it will be a success or not, but that is what I conclude from my observations. At 6-7 BTC daily volume you can easily manipulate the market price if you have some money and you prevent investors from buying. You can achieve this easily with crying out that the coin was a scam, maybe by twittering the same things over and over again at every single tweet of the coin and putting all your effort into fudding? I don't know.

i get what your saying... but the faith was cut short on the whole "rebrand" and oh we know that was old team... this is the internet we can make phantom changes all day long if you want to get truthful about it

1.) I didn't say was a scam
2.) the use of FUD is the go to word ppl use to anything they do not like to hear, Fact or not

if you don't want "FUD" then don't shake things up and make everything so confusing to so many ppl...

the age old "K.I.S.S" technique works wonders when over 50% of your possible investors don't speak english, do not know their ages etc

There is a weekly voice chat, you can actually talk to the team members, no phantom changes there. Join the discord, listen to the people behind the coin. It is a community coin, there was no ICO, there are no paid teams or offices. You can also give your input, they will listen. They always did. And the team is not completely new, marketing has been changed and some new leadership is there, but dev is still the same, and more people get involved.