Quote from: kano on August 09, 2013, 09:06:54 AM

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Quote from: Ytterbium on August 09, 2013, 03:21:46 AM

It's already 11:21 AM, on 8/9 in Shenzhen!

You know how it is - you've been on a long plane flight - you've been drinking free booze all flight in first class - you get back in front of your computer you've not been near for weeks due to partying, whoring and boozing in Vegas, and it's like
"Hmm PMs and emails while I've been away ... oh well, guess I better say something before I pass out so I can ignore that crap for another week ..."
Wakes up the next morning ... oh crap I said "tomorrow" in the post ... oh well no one will notice anything different if I do nothing for a few days, they're used to that from me, and I am only a PR guy, not like I know anything about hardware or software and have control over anything except delaying deliveries ... ... ...

don't you got better things to do like writing code mr. software engineer than waste time with some first-class-riding booze-drinking "pr guy" like me?

anyhow, update is live on main page. http://avalon-asics.com

So I was out shopping for food ... and on the way home I started thinking about this 'customs' comment and realised there must be some tracking numbers to prove it true (or false) ... then I read the thread now again (10 more pages Tongue

) and find it has been brought up.

But let me put it to you directly:

Firstly, the chips are being shipped from who to who?

Am I incorrect to say that the only customs involved is shipping the chips from Avalon to the customer?

Correct or false?

False, Customs doesn't ship, they only clear the package and charge import/export duty and taxes.

TSMC -> Avalon -> Customs -> Group Buy Host -> Individual Customers.

It is also a bad idea to share the tracking number because....as has been evident before Kano. Someone out there has been doing social engineering to steal Avalons...so a couple multiples of "ten thousand(s)" of chips would make a great DHL target.

Taking a non-descript screen cap of the claimed customs hold is enough as long as certain critical elements are blurred out so the social engineering can't take place.

Keep in mind they now have Yifu and the teams personal info, so pretending to be them is possible. Especially if there is a PDF out in the wild with all the team members personal addresses and details.

Quote from: kano on August 09, 2013, 09:06:54 AM

If that is correct, then simply give the shipping number to ANY customer and they can verify the truth of all this - since their shipping will show it stuck in customs this past week ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Again, bad idea!

Anyone of those customers can call DHL and do the same thing that was done to multiple DHL customers of Avalon. (the packages were re-routed after someone impersonated a known customer)

Quote from: kano on August 09, 2013, 09:06:54 AM

If you are shipping chips from somewhere else to China - I ask why? TMSC made them outside China? Then what was the whole point of saying TMSC was in China and you were close to them?

As someone pointed out. TSMC has fabs in different places. But it is well worth asking that question and getting a definitive answer.

Quote from: kano on August 09, 2013, 09:06:54 AM

But even if they are shipping to China - give us one of your shipping numbers and it will show your chips stuck in customs for the past week ... ... ... ...

Bad idea. We also do not know if the Fab would be comfortable re-routing completed chips to some place other than what the contract specifies.

I assume there has to be paperwork that needs to show they actually delivered the chips. (Hence the delivery to China)

Quote from: kano on August 09, 2013, 09:06:54 AM

... and lastly ... why are they stuck in customs.

Good question.

Quote from: kano on August 09, 2013, 09:06:54 AM

Isn't that your job - mail boy? Is there anything else you actually do for all the money you get paid by your customers? ... other than spend it in Vegas ...

Kano, don't lie, we know you can't afford food. Let alone speculating on vegas.