Quote from: OgNasty on January 28, 2018, 08:48:04 AM

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 27, 2018, 11:30:36 PM

1) I don't run NastyFans.

So you're saying that in the hypothetical case of someone getting tagged and/or legal action being taken, regardless from who, that it should be directed towards nonnakip?

I dont know how much more clear I can be. I dont run NastyFans. You are as much in control of what NastyFans does as I am.

Are you sure about that?

Quote from: nonnakip on March 26, 2013, 11:06:15 PM

Quote from: kuzetsa on March 26, 2013, 10:06:49 PM

Just wanted to point out that nowhere in the nastyfans policy was there any specification / written understanding or documentation (nor any post on this forum) to authorize OgNasty to suddenly have control over treasury seats, complete with voting rights:

The fanclub does not have treasury seats. All seats are the same. Just like you OgNasty received the number of seats on the GLBSE list. I think you agree that it is very generous that OgNasty does not accept donations for those seats. Maybe you want OgNasty to abstain from voting also? Sometimes OgNasty abstains. Somtimes not. Maybe OgNasty has insights to some issues that we do not know. Example of BTCFPGA: without OgNasty votes the results of the BTCFPGA order poll is not cancel. But this is obvious scam now. I trust OgNasty and I think most fans do. If OgNasty forces a poll result then maybe there are good reasons. But as president I choose polls carefully because I know OgNasty can push a majority.

Maybe in the future OgNasty does not have so many seats. We have several members with many seats and are growing.

Quote from: kuzetsa on March 26, 2013, 10:06:49 PM

So really, we have a mockery of a voting system:

We have a member with many many seats. We can ask OgNasty to abstain from voting. But there are some members like stan.distortion that prefer OgNasty handles the important decisions. They maybe have no disagreement with OgNasty voting. As president I would appreciate knowing before if OgNasty will vote on a poll. Because then there is no need for that poll.

Quote from: kuzetsa on March 26, 2013, 10:06:49 PM

1) abstention is instead automatically treated like a veto / converted to a vote of "take no action which can be used to fix or amend broken policy"
2) the mining operations manager (or whatever OgNasty's title is) basically has full veto power for everything treasury seats are no longer treated separately like they're supposed to be.
3) there is no "3" ... though I guess I'll add that technically, the 75% majority vote requirement isn't all that abnormal, but in light of point number 2, it's easily abused.

With voting we can change nastyfans policy. With dialogue we can work with OgNasty to start polls where we know OgNasty abstains.

I have much respect for OgNasty and the NASTY MINING work. I trust OgNasty. As president of nastyfans I also see the problem with seat distribution. I believe this problem will fix itself as NASTY MINING and nastyfans matures.