Quote from: HarvyDent on August 06, 2018, 06:35:44 AM

I don't want to say that the US is made of angels, but how is what the US does a justification for what Russia does?

You say that Russia's influence is limited outside it's own borders. Well, this thread is originally about the fact that Russia keeps trying to move it's borders out.

The four counts where Russia "moved it's borders out" (Transnistria, Apsua, South Osetia and Crimea) were for protecting Russian, Apsua and Osetin populations who asked for help, being attacked by NATO or NATO-aspiring nations parts of which they nearly became.
This has nothing to do with "revanchism", "revenge", "childish grievances" and so on.
Preventing ethnical cleansings is not revanchism.

2nd, only one of those regions became part of the Federation. I specifically omit Donbass, as Donbass is too divided to get this kind of help.
Donbass is at civil war with unelected government, receiving humanitarian help much the same as "rebels" in entire Middle East receive help of US. The situation with involvement in Donbass is exactly mirroring involvement of e.g. US in Syria, but without the tomahawks.

3rd, how is what US does is a justification? There is geopolitical balance.
Giving Crimea to NATO would be geopolitical catastrophe with a lot more repercussions, than taking it back into Russia.
Reluctantly, Russian government was forced to take Crimea.

Quote from: CryptoKyddie on February 02, 2018, 04:12:15 AM

I can think of a very long list of aggressive countries, including and not limited to:

USA
Russia
Israel
Iran
North Korea
Syria

I wonder what was the reason to put Israel 3rd here.
Israel is the only nation that managed to increase it's territory by almost 100% in 6 days.
They took also Sinai peninsula that would make that factor even greater, but then gave it back.
Neither US nor Russia attacked more than 5 countries simultaneously in recent history.
Also neither of them were directly perpetrating racially targeted genocide in the 2nd half of previous century.
With the exception maybe of Viet Nam.

Why is even Iran here? All it did it went to war with Iraq, because of anglo-saxon shenanigans.
North Korea did absolutely nothing. Syria only fought back to Israel. My impression the list is just composed
from what the person see on CNN, without any personal analysis.