Quote from: Lauda on February 02, 2018, 06:45:19 AM

Quote from: mikez_nj on February 02, 2018, 04:13:16 AM

This forum is rife with scammers. VIrosaGITS is not one of them.

Irrelevant. Anyone offering self-escrow[1] should have their trust rating nullified at least. In case that the two DT members do not remove theirs, I'll have to apply a negative.

[1] This forum has suffered enough from *benevolent* Quickseller-like self-escrow offers.

Let me see if i can get this right;

If i ask someone to first send me hardware, where i will first verify said hardware to be in good condition, and only then will pay them; It warrant people removing their reported activity of me not having scammed them? Or me getting red trust?

You're basically saying : "Hey guys, this Virosa guy has performed repeated trade where the mutual agreed upon deal, is where all risks be upon the second party's shoulder, the results of these trades is Virosa respected the agreement, however let's still all remove our trust/neg him, just cuz."

Even though after OP's refusal i asked to use Escrow, and go at his asking price? How could that possibly equate me being untrustworthy.

The whole trust system is about building a profile of people's activity, how they operate and what the result of the interaction was. It's not a power stick for you to enforce whatever rule you see fit. It's a tool for people to read, to decide if they wish to proceed with suggested agreement or to pass.

I've operated like so over a dozen time without a hitch, some say yes, so say no. When they say yes, it allow me to pay them whatever we agreed to at the actual FIAT Value, with no risk of ending up with 25% less, as such today is an example, where BTC is down 25% in the last week.

What matters is 2 party coming to an agreement, whomever may or may not be taking the risk, and both party respecting said agreement. That's a genuine transaction.

So you not only want me, to act the way you want, but you also want to bring in Blazed and Co into this. You're literally acting as the epitome of drama queen. Nobody was scammed here, nobody would of gotten scammed and nobody will be, by me at least.

Sidehack trust you and likes you, but i don't see what he sees. So sure, go and ask Blazed, stir more shit up, i do not wish to be presumptuous, however i believe he knows who i am, what i do, what i contribute to Crypto outside this forum, with bigger stake than this, maybe you'll take his word over mine, maybe you won't and you will stick to your guns and leave me a red trust even though i've never scammed, or will never scam, for as i wish to honor and respect people i look up to and associate with, people like Wolf0, OhGodAGirl, eliovp, kotarius, sling and companies or projects like ethOS.

This is you (and op) having a personal problem with me, nothing more nor less.
I could be offering people to escrow for them, and it's up to them to decide if they wish to be the first to take the risk. Nobody started with trust, it was built. Whether its OgNasty or SebastianJu or phil, it was unknown if they could be trusted, until someone took a risk and slowly they have built their rep.

Quote from: mikez_nj on February 02, 2018, 04:13:16 AM

Just going to throw this out there, since I was surprised to see the title. I didn't read the entire flame war, but I have done a deal with VirosaGITS recently, so I feel I should speak up.

He was trustworthy, helpful, and the deal went through without a hitch.

I sold him a miner, and given his trust profile and the price that I was selling at, I took him up on his "self-escrow" offer. I know that's not *actually* escrow, but I figured that I didn't have that much to lose. He had reputation to lose. He also was very easy to talk to, and we spoke quite a bit before he actually got the miner. I felt completely at ease, and the transaction was smooth and painless.

This forum is rife with scammers. VIrosaGITS is not one of them.

Thanks i appreciate the word.