Quote from: Bitcoinorama on August 16, 2013, 12:55:56 PM

Quote from: jermwerty on August 15, 2013, 05:22:35 PM

Quote from: Bicknellski on August 15, 2013, 05:11:11 AM

Why should anyone bother with Avalon or BFL when you can get other chips that are faster, more efficient and delivered on time with companies that are actually polite, responsive and supportive when you develop DIY boards? Note that many are also offering "protection" against the vagaries of the difficulty spikes...

Oh how history is soon forgotten...

I think the key here isn't promises made beforehand, but delivery as promised. We have yet to see if KnC, BitFury, etc will actually deliver on anything thus far promised! Lets see how that "protection" works if/when they slip dates... Remember BFL was heralded as the king of ASICs this time a year ago, and they were selling with PayPal so you'll get your money back if they don't deliver as promised in "two weeks"(tm)!

The protection works as long as it's within the valid timeframe of the third party providing it's stipulated terms, or that of the country's laws surrounding the payment method chosen. It has nothing to do with the vendor, it's out of their hands. History's never been forgotten, just consumers have blindly lept into purchases without informing themselves of options they have if terms of sale aren't met and what period of time they have available to do something about it. It's not the manufacturer or the 'protection' available's fault, just the dumbass throwing their money at stuff without reading.

Not so worried about PROTECTION as getting the fucking chips to be honest but at least people are attempting to do the right thing. Our COOP on the other hand want to do it the right way as possible. We inform everyone of our decision to not fabricate. We refund everyone in BTC and we do it as fast as we can. I could really care less at this point what people promise but rather what they actually deliver or in terms of cock ups what they do IMMEDIATELY to rectify that situation. To be honest there are only two players at this point. BitFury delivered chips. Asicminer delivered miners. Avalon shot themselves and BFL is just a joke fullstop everyone else pretty much has little or no reputation of value minus say Burnin, Bkkcoins, Alten and a few other DIY fabricators who have invested more time and effort that it seems most of these other "companies". Sad indeed.

Till the businesses mature and offer solutions to issues rather than excuses no one will really be trusting of anyone. I would rather do with business with people who make mistakes but bend over backwards to fix that mistake and make good on promises as best they can with honesty and integrity. Until you earn that no warranty or protection plan means anything.