Quote from: RiseandFall on February 04, 2018, 05:14:23 PM

Quote from: Sugaman on February 04, 2018, 04:18:20 PM

Quote from: RichPissman on February 04, 2018, 10:17:50 AM

Facts remain facts people!

The statement that drew my attention was as follows:

"No one can be held accountable for anything in Gulden, for Gulden is nothing. There is no company and no one gets paid to do anything. There is no authority and everyone is able to contribute the way they like"

This is the short version of this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1495990.msg29510851#msg29510851

Well, here come the facts:

- Gulden is a blockchain based token that is centrally managed and developed by a company called Gulden.com B.V.
- The company has several people on it's payrol, including Rijk Plasman and his brother Rits Plasman.
- The company pays a hired developer in South Africa, Malcolm Macleod by the hour for software development.
- The salaries and invoices from these people are paid from funds that were attracted by selling shares to the community.
- Those shares are backed by Gulden tokens that were reserved in the premine that was initially meant to be fairly distributed among the Dutch citizens for free.
- A vast majority of the active community has always been against this self-enrichment by the team.
- Although the BV was created at a later stage (to prevent tax fraud charges), it's a fact the team is paid for their involvement for over 2 years now.
- By deciding to pay Malcolm for his work with community funds and drawing fulltime salaries for himself and family Rijk should accept he is accountable for any progress by this team. That includes delays and failure as well.
- Since Gulden.com is a centralized platform, owned by a single person who bans everyone that criticizes his decisions it's fair to state there is an authority at work here.

We already have over 5 different ANN's on this forum alone of which the last one is so heavily moderated it looks more like a blog. They are already at their third Slackchanel, that is totally off limits to anyone that even dares to comment on anything the company decides.

So, my personal conclusion would be, base your decision on facts, rather than the lies that the Gulden zombies try to feed you here!

Has any development taken place since the 600 btc, how do we know it hasn't been used on Island holidays, drugs and prostitutes? Living the high life and only have to work on excuses for the delays.

I know the iOS link feature was added by MaNI end of 2017, and a lot of desktop wallet updates.
Rijk looks like a honest guy from the article photos, I doubt he is banging hookers all night long with bitcoin, do hookers accept bitcoin in NL ?

In the event he is banging some class A hookers to relieve some stress , what precautions are taken by companies pimping these bitches out , that they don't have any sexually transmitted diseases?

Give the devs a chance to finish up PoW2 and SegSig this month before talking about whether the devs have cockrot or not.