Quote from: Rawted on August 20, 2013, 02:43:17 PM

Quote from: TheButterZone on August 20, 2013, 01:32:37 AM

Quote from: Rawted on August 20, 2013, 12:19:49 AM

Quote from: peetas on August 19, 2013, 10:42:39 PM

I wish I saw this thread 3 weeks ago, before I placed an order with Coinabul for a 1oz Krugerrand and paid for it with BTC. I quickly researched Coinabul beforehand and only found good reviews and recommendations everywhere. Now, 3 weeks later, my order is still showing as 'Processing', so I researched them some more and found a couple of negative reviews. I have tried contacting them on all their channels, including the messaging system on the site, e-mail, phone, PM on here and Skype, to try to get a status update or a refund if they are unable to complete the order, without success. I could not yet get hold of anyone and have not received one reply.

Does anyone know of a way to contact them to actually get hold of someone that can help?

It looks like at one point they were sort of reliable, so I guess there is a small chance I might still get my order, but I reckon I would prefer a refund at this stage, especially since they are one of the companies being subpoenaed.

In the meantime I have placed a similiar order at amagimetals.com, and it shipped within 3 days of placing the order. I'm still awaiting delivery since it's an international delivery, but at least there is progress and everything looks legit with tracking on the shipping. This time I tried contacting them before placing the order and got a response within minutes and they addressed all the questions and concerns I had, so I was happy to give them a try.

you can chat directly with jay, the owner, by going onto irc freenode and going to the channel #bitcoin-otc. His username is coingenuity, and he is an op there, so im sure the channel would benefit from hearing about another unsatisfied customer. Make sure you tell him rawted sent you.

Offtopic and asking for a ban. Try http://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=1&channels=coinabul&prompt=1

You seem to be forgetting a few things here, TBZ.

1. I am the victim. I left an honest, detailed trust rating, with links to substantiate, and i was banned (and still am.). I went off of my interactions with Jay, his verbal tirade against his customers, his physical and verbal assault of another person, and the way his company runs.

2. I gave Jay Shore time to make things good. His cowardice prevented him from even answering me. I gave the higher up ops (who were all quite disgusted with his behavior - at least thats what they told me in queries...) a chance to right his wrongs, their cowardice has prevented them from doing so. Everyone seems content in that little otc community to let a scammer run wild, simply because he is an op who has talked up the size and success of his business immensely.

3. It's affecting my business.

I've been nice and cordial about this whole thing, but i am not a meek person, and i will not lie down and be fucked over. Don't forget this all came about because an irc op banned me because i left an honest, fair, and accurate review on his WOT. I am not the issue here, but i don't expect any of you to understand.

I haven't forgotten anything, also including that you are not klined/glined from Freenode, you have received zero negative ratings on your WoT, and I'm pretty sure you can still auth to gribble and trade if you join one of the prerequisite auth channels that isn't -otc.

If coingenuity/coinabul is a scammer, then telling the infinite amount of victims to go to #bitcoin-otc and talk to him in channel will result in a 24/7/365 flamewar over coinabul that completely detracts from the actual topic of #bitcoin-otc:

"The topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange."

There's enough off topic shit in there RIGHT THIS SECOND, so I would thank everyone to not interfere with Bitcoin trading and exchange any further, as I have no op power to actually enforce the topic. Nor do you (or anyone but nanotube, who sits in #coinabul, BTW) have the power to have the coinabul.com link permanently removed from the topic, and to fire/ban coingenuity.

Since nobody seems to pay attention to the topic anyway, and coingenuity doesn't advertise in the channel with actual messages, a flamewar may only result in MORE traffic for his business than he gets now from -otc, and definitely LESS BUSINESS FOR EVERYONE ELSE. Way to shoot self, and everyone else, in foot!