Quote from: DooMAD on February 06, 2018, 09:23:50 PM

If there's going to be controversy, I might as well get the ball rolling. Roll Eyes

I remain wholly unconvinced that the Bitcoin Cash fork (and the original SegWit2x planned but unactivated fork) were hostile. They still appear to me simply as different visions that were incompatible with the one the majority of Bitcoin users decided was best. An innocuous difference of opinion, rather than a coup, but one that got out of hand and was taken to extremes on both sides. And I'd agree that "Bitcoin is stronger than ever before", not because it vanquished a foe, but because each idea was able to take its own path and allow the market to decide. I'm intrigued to see where both Lightning and 32mb blocks take their respective projects and how each will fare. People here are generally too defensive of something that doesn't really need defending. Bitcoin can take care of itself. It doesn't need people to torpedo any ideas or projects that aren't compatible, it merely needs to allow them to leave and pursue those goals separately. To the most resilient chain go the spoils.

Okay so, I think Carlton really just blew my mind with a +1 post. And for a guy who just finished his undergrad and is working towards a PsyD eventually, this is fascinating, and he is exactly right. You don't implore those tactics unless you have a nefarious agenda. Even narcissistic/psychopathic type CEO's don't use these tactics (it's not the norm), and instead correlates HEAVILY with fraudulent activity. So yeah, I really do have to do some more reading on this because;

Quote from: Carlton Banks on February 06, 2018, 10:06:38 PM

Quote from: LeGaulois on February 06, 2018, 09:40:15 PM

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Bcash marketing strategy:
-confuse people into thinking they are the real bitcoin.

It's easy to dismiss the "not a coup" assessments on this basis.

Both BCash and Segwit2x claimed to be "The Real Bitcoin". There was an attempt by both forks to get the ticker symbol (BTC) appropriated by their respective projects, including a point in late 2017 where Coinbase Inc. (which was heavily in favour of Segwit2x) were set to change the ticker symbol on their exchange. The marketing of Bitcoin Cash has continued to make the "real Bitcoin" claim since the demise of the Segwit2x fork.

There is no need to use such highly psychological tactics if the intention is to create an honest competitor, that kind of rhetoric is clearly and unambiguously dishonest. This is aggressive and manipulative behaviour, why would a technically superior product need to employ such machiavellian tactics? The answer is because these forks were self-interested attempts to de-rail Bitcoin's direction and stability, not that they were borne out of genuine technical disagreements.

Seems just like any shady IPO, listed on the OTC exchange, whereas regulation is minimal and audits are almost non-existent and can easily be fudged. These guys hoped to capitalize on that concept, as do what seems some of these alt-coins are hoping to accomplish?... and because of the lack of regulation, it's harder for us to distinguish these malevolent acts until someones lost money and the threads start appearing, and by then, it's usually a little too late...

I don't know, it's quite interesting and fascinating reading what you guys have to say, I have so many questions that I'm working to formulate, but I love how nullius forked this comment from a thread on forks, so less technically inclined people like me can read-in and be a part of the discussion.

thanks guys!