Quote from: 4v4l0n42 on June 28, 2011, 06:33:47 PM

Quote from: jtimon on June 28, 2011, 06:15:26 PM

So you agree with my definition of freedom?
Can you answer to this post?
LightRider's answers didn't told me much.

I address both issues on the video I'm editing right now, so the proper answer will come with that.

Cool. I'll wait and I hope to be answered there.

I'm cool with everything but the bold parts:

Quote from: 4v4l0n42 on June 28, 2011, 06:33:47 PM

Generally speaking, the movement doesn't "reject" anything: you have to understand that this is not a coercive process. Nothing is outlawed, nor imposed, but we work in order to reduce the conditions that generate negative retroactions. So, trade would be acceptable in and RBE, it just wouldn't make much sense because you'll be given access to what you need. Still, if you want to trade, no problem, go ahead and do it.

Will I be given access to anything I want too or just what my body needs to survive?
Who is going to give me free access to those resources?

Quote from: 4v4l0n42 on June 28, 2011, 06:33:47 PM

What I think is missing is the central point of the whole RBE argument: we need to find a way to live sustainably on the planet in a peaceful, non coercive manner. The free market clearly fails in such regards, as do the socialists regimes, so there is a need for different system. We're trying to figure out the best way to do it with an open discussion, that's all.

I don't think so. What free market? Do we live in a free market?
You think on money as a form of coercion and that's why you think it will just disappear, but money doesn't have to be necessarily coercing.
As I told you before, I don't completely agree with the austrian view. I think the structure of most moneys is flawed. Even sound money like gold or bitcoin. Their scarcity and everlastingness lead to interest, the real flaw of capitalism and not the free market.
I guess asking you about Gesell is too much. Although if you read long texts with the ease you refer them, you should definitely read his book. If you're interested in a critique of capitalism from a free market perspective, there's plenty of links in the post linked from my sign.
Gesell attacked money's everlastingness but you can also defeat interest with non-scarce moneys such as LETS or Ripple.
Maybe TZM can mention bitcoin or ripple as less coercive or transitory moneys to substitute the current ones before the coming extinction of money.