Quote from: Sandal_Hat on February 11, 2018, 02:34:47 AM

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Quote from: bl1nd on February 05, 2018, 01:19:16 PM

I cant help but wonder what is ppl thinking for paying 3500$ for a 11th miner? thats a 14 month to ROI without any diff increase.

At 5 cents electricity, it is now 16-17 months, 480-510 days. At 10 cents electricity, it is 20 months, 600 days. That isnt possible. This is without difficulty increase and new stronger machines coming in....
Price should go down to $1100-1200usd?

Quote from: lossol on February 05, 2018, 06:26:28 PM

Lucky for you someone else beat you to checkout because ROI is now 848 days for an A821 at $3500 & 0.10/kWh. Which basically means never! All those ebayers are still paying $3500 for an S9 and $2000 for an A741 too.

These people do not know wat they are doing....

This is why I was livid when the 741s went to $1400 and my order of 6 of them (at $795 each) never shipped.
Because bitcoin price is volatile, and to just deem your 12 month old hardware 2x as expensive is BULLSHIT!

Heres the deal Canaan! When you say you base the price of your miners depending on bitcoins price youre just lying
If it doesnt go down when the price of bitcoin falls. And when the price of bitcoin rises the difficulty rises with it so its harder to mine. So profit is less then too.

For a company to be such opportunist like this is bullshit.
Im not telling anyone here anything they didnt already know. Unless your buying 7.3 terrahash for 2k.

Wat u mean by they never shipped? They just cancelled the order?

I got a feeling they wont decrease price. They have buyer due sensationalized media news on how mining is so great. These new miners wont break even and will be feeling alot of pain...

They never shipped, I ordered on October 2017. And they were supposed to ship December 5th. Minerwarez continued to promise the miners for several weeks after this. Then one day they decided not to ship them and backed out of their promise to ship them and then offered the 821s at zero discount and they wouldnt ship until March. LOL!! Like bro, Ive already received 2 shipments from bitmain since then. GFY! Asked for a refund, then called my credit card company and they said they MinerWarez were fraudulent. I wont buy anything from Canaan EVER again.