Quote from: bluefin on August 24, 2013, 04:40:56 PM

Quote from: ak49er on August 24, 2013, 04:27:15 PM

Quote from: Silvas on August 24, 2013, 03:28:36 AM

I'm legitimately curious - would you have the same opinion if, for example, you pre-ordered (and paid in full up front) say a PS4 from gamestop and they said no refunds, and then Sony didn't deliver PS4s to their customers, didn't tell anyone what what going on for weeks on end and then came up with some shaky excuses and went silent again and nobody had any idea when or even if the PS4s would ever show up?
Would you just sit back and say yo gamestop it's cool; I know it's not your fault and you've got my money, and I have no merchandise, but I'll just wait until who knows when?
What if the unthinkable occurred and the PS4s never showed up? What would you do then?

I'll give you a legitimate response. One that seems to escape most people. If you buy on pre-order a PS4 from Sony you're buying a 4th generation product from an electronics giant. A company that's been around for a few decades. If you equate Terrahash, a company that has only just been created, with the sole purpose of making a bitcoin mining rig with Avalon chips that are as rare as hens teeth, then you're ~~bat shit crazy~~ delusional.

And if in the case of the PS4 being non-deliverable you know that Sony would do a full refund, because the pre-orders they took weren't to fund its development, but a marketing ploy to generate demand and a feeding frenzy.

Be pissed all you want, its an aggravating situation all around, but try at least to hang on to some sense of reality. Comparing a fledgling company in a fledgling industry to the likes of Sony is one step away from that reality.

Here is the problem with your statement:

The difference is that it doesn't matter whether they are a 100 year old billion $ company or a brand new start-up, neither company can use customer money to fund their business, that is called investing, non of us agreed to invest in their company, did you? would you?

This is not kickstarter!

You aren't entirely wrong. However, we knew the lines where blurry and we put our money in anyway. Call it customer, investor, investomer, or something else. History should have highlighted the risks of this pre-order business. Things can go wrong and I'm not going to bash TH for something that was out of their control. Have they done some things wrong, sure and they owned up to it. They've shown hospitality in this thread and to those who visited them so I'm not seeing the evilness.

Quote from: Bargraphics on August 24, 2013, 03:19:37 PM

Quote from: bluefin on August 24, 2013, 03:07:44 PM

Most people are disagreeing with you, you seem to be implying that there is this vast silent magority that are behind you. Well lets see them?

Just because there are a few squeaky wheels on here doesn't make them a majority hah. If most people were disagreeing with me then Terrahash would be bankrupt right now. But since you insist on playing the "Who's on my side game" I'll just toss names here on people that disagree with YOU

In order that I scan through the thread

mrthundercleese
-Redacted-
BlIiTtZz
gbx
knightlife999
ak49er

Just to name a few,

Oh and again everyone that has a PayPal or Credit Card order and has not asked for a refund.

Check and Mate

Everyone knows that the unhappy people always make the most noise.