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Oh cool, war talk!

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Where's that story about the elephant and the ants? I know some elephants avoid plants that have ants, but they don't bring down the elephants.

I think it was something said during the war. Germany was the elephant (better technology, better trained, better generals, etc.) the Soviets were the ants (huge numbers).

Please stop repeating nonsense someone told you before you at least check the facts once. If you bothered to do that, you would find:

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)

Does this look to you like elephant and ants? Something else was the reason why Soviets defeated Hitler, and it's not the number of soldiers.

The ruski numbers are way higher (why does this need pointing out?). So yeah, ants. Also, they were in the r phase of the cultural cycle during the war, so they definitely relied more on numbers than quality. Some of their soldiers were tasked with shooting anyone who fled from the front lines, for fucks sake.

Repeating nonsense will not make it true. On what do you base your claims these numbers are not true? It's common reaction not tot accept the facts when facts doesn't suite your prejudices and beliefs. Smart people rather question their beliefs then questions the facts. Doubt is good, it's a source of knowledge.

Look. Look at the fucking numbers you are quoting. Where do you see higher numbers on the axis side? Point it out. Dickwad.

No seriously, what the fuck happened here?

Happened that I'm tired arguing with you about obvious. You stated:

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Germany was the elephant (better technology, better trained, better generals, etc.) the Soviets were the ants (huge numbers)

and I've shoved you the figures that in 1944 when the Germans where truly defeated there were 3,370,000 Hitler's fighters confronted to 6,425,000 Soviet fighters. If that complies with your definition of one elephant vs huge number of ants then I'm out of the discussion. You are right that those 3,3M fighters had better technology, were better trained, had superior command infrastructure and still they are defeated by 6.4M fighters. It certainly was not the "ant psychology" that gained victory with such less then 1:2 number difference.

20m vs 3,8m paints quite a different picture.

Guys...

http://ww2f.com/

please